There is no such thing as “CO2 forcing”. In fact, the only radiative flow is the upward flux through the atmospheric window. All other radiation movement is local. I realize you did not originate this term, but once you start down this dead end street you will get lost.
Outside the atmospheric window all radiation from the surface is absorbed into the bulk atmosphere at a very low altitude. Energy then moves around through several mechanisms. Radiation is but one of them. The important concept is energy flux. It moves upward. There is no downward energy flux outside of solar energy.
Until this problem is understood all estimates of climate sensitivity will get the wrong answer.
The White House crowd is using bumbling, folksy, grifting/grafting Biden, to spread the word, fossil fuels, God’s gift to Mankind, are evil, and therefore, we need umpteen offshore wind turbines to cool down the boiling earth, for as long as it takes, while fighting a low-boil WW III, for as long as it takes.
The US government has the fantasy of wanting to build 30,000 MW of offshore by 2030, i.e., just 7 years, but several companies, building projects for Massachusetts, will be allowed to walk away from the signed PPAs, and rebid at much higher prices next year.
The UK government has the fantasy of wanting to build 36,000 MW of offshore by 2030
That means placing in operation 66,000/7 = 9,428 MW of wind turbines/y, during 2024 through 2030
The continent-based European big wind companies currently have an offshore capacity of about 4,000 MW/y
These companies prefer the U.S. market, because Biden’s “Inflation-Reduction-Act” (IRA) has higher subsidies than the UK.
The IRA has “bonus” subsidies for domestic content requirements to create US jobs and US wind infrastructures
However, the EU is urging Biden to ignore the domestic content requirements, so Europe would receive “bonus” subsidies to create European jobs to build factories, ports, cranes, specialized ships, etc., for manufacturing and erecting wind turbines to increase EU wind turbine exports to the US, UK, and other markets in future years.
The EU has a high-level goal to shame the US, rich in energy and other resources, into the wind/solar/battery blackhole, using UN IPCC scare-mongering about global-warming NOTE: The specialized ships and cranes, almost all owned by European companies, are very expensive and take 3 to 4 years to design and build. They are booked years in advance, with upfront cancellation fees in escrow. Their lack of availability, even at high fees, delays projects, which increases $/installed MW
NOTE: The US will have at least a $1.0 trillion trade deficit, plus a $1.695 trillion federal budget deficit in 2023. The US is in no position to engage in giveaways.
NOTE:
About 7,000 MW of offshore wind bids were awarded by the UK 4th Auction, in 2022
No bids were submitted for the UK 5th Auction, in 2023; European companies protesting low UK subsidies.
No bids were submitted for a new floating offshore wind project off the coast of Scotland.
The pro-wind bureaucrats and Media, in the impoverished State of Maine, want to build 3000 MW of floaters by 2040!
I think it is a summary of mind-numbing-dumbing sickness, induced by ilks, such as Guterres, WEF, IPCC, using the foghorn of the subsidized, lapdog Media, and the perverted/bought academia.
One has to feel sorry for young people and parents who will have to put up with all this BS, unless they finally revolt big time to neuter the oppressors.
Here’s how to do it…
1) Think of eco sounding name for your “foundation”.
2) Put up a few page website of eco looking pics. Beach trash, skinny kids, icebergs, big eyed animals are good. A turtle in a fisherman’s net is golden.
3) Make it sound like you actively distribute funds to eco causes, research, and education of children….the closer to wildlife poachers the better. Start by sending $10 to Greenpeace. Sponsor $200 to a local kids team to pick up ditch litter or beach trash. Take pics for your website.
4) Solicit funds from governments, Bloomberg, etc. You can get a list with a simple search query. But most of your funds will come from organizations who are already soliciting government funds to the max and will send it some of it to you. It’s almost analagous to money laundering by drug dealers whose biggest problem is getting rid of the pallets of cash in their storage unit.
5) As long as your website seems to match your donation request, more money than you ever dreamed of will come rolling in from organizations that have basically done the same as you are doing…. sponging off other organization that are trying to impress their donators with how much good they are doing by distributing funds.
6) Keep as much money as you can personally, ostensibly for managing the eco-scam. Spend the rest of the money expanding the eco-scam. Most tax jurisdictions will have a charitable foundation status for you, and you can pay yourself a management fee of 15 to 50 % of the funds raised without raising too many eyebrows. Plus you can travel anywhere and live the high life and claim it all as an expense of the foundation. You might actually have to visit some poverty stricken shit-hole in between stays at the tourist beaches to get the photo ops you need for your website. Buy real estate in a tropical place for your CO2 sequestration tree plantation, (but really for future retirement or real estate speculation).
I actually had a person who ran a charity collecting basic necessities for the “underprivileged” tell me they collected $3.5 million in cash donations “on the side” in small bills. I’m guessing there might be some temptation involved with reporting that much cash income.
I completely agree. Look up their report, “The future of urban consumption in a 1.5 degree world.” You have to download the report to read the whole thing. It sets an ambitious target of zero kgs of meat and Dairy consumption per person by 2050.
I will try and find a link and post it.
Richard Tice, the head of Reform, a small right leaning party in the UK, announcing they are planning to contest every seat at the next general election. From the Telegraph. My emphasis.
Reform UK will stand in every seat in England, Scotland and Wales, and help ensure that the Conservatives are dismissed from office. This is an essential part in the process of turning the country round and saving Britain. It will take some time. But it must be done. As more and more people hear about our party and look at our policies, they are realising that there is another group, with a serious track record of success in business, that can fulfil the contract the Conservatives broke with the electorate. We talk about the difficult issues that Westminster does not want discussed in polite company. We say what millions of voters really feel, but Westminster refuses to understand. We tell it as it is on the problems of mass lawful and illegal immigration, and offer a clear plan to stop the boats by replicating what Australia successfully did some ten years ago.
We challenge the absurdity of Net Zero – the greatest act of financial self-harm ever imposed on a country by its leaders – that will achieve nothing but sending our jobs and money overseas, to geopolitical rivals who laugh at our naivete.
We object to the woke ideology that is poisoning our public and private sector institutions. And we believe that allowing gender questioning and transitioning in schools is a dangerous breach of safeguarding, that should be stopped immediately.
“a small right leaning party in the UK”, I’m a member of the Reform Party and we like to think of ourselves as the common sense party; anti woke, secure borders, zero GP waiting lists and lower taxes. As one of our speakers said at our last meeting “it’s a sign of madness to keep voting for the same old thing and expect a different result.” Nothing has really changed in British politics for decades and I can’t bring myself to vote for any of the continuation parties and I don’t think of myself as a right wing voter, just someone who is fed up of being taken for granted by politicians.
It may be madness to keep voting for the same old thing but where was the choice? Reform may be that much-needed breath of fresh air in politics, I certainly hope so because something has got to change with the big 3 parties.
Let me recount a bit of Canadian electoral history….in 1984 Mulroney’s Conservatives won a landslide election after voters were fed up of 20 years of Liberal party patronage to businesses in Liberal constituencies. Unfortunately the Conservatives policy was “austerity” which necessitated over 100 tax increases…..which proved unpopular with voters….resulted in only 2 seats for Conservatives in the next election….and again profligate Liberal spending (of the increased tax base) for the following decade.
In 1994, the Reform Party won many seats but the Liberals held the government because of splitting the “right wing” vote. (Which you are likely to experience with your reform party) By 2004 the Reform party and Conservative party united under Harper to eliminate the vote splitting….and won the election.
Again the new Conservative government implemented spending austerity…..also did manage to win a second election. They lost the following election even though they had a percent or so more of the popular vote than the winning Liberals due.
Then… Thanks to CoVid and a keep-up-with-US spending mentality, the Liberals were able to ratchet up their high-spending plan to levels that hadn’t been seen as a percentage of GDP since WW2 (while neglecting to point out to the public that personal income tax after WW2 had a max bracket of 95% tax rate by the 1950’s until another Conservative, Diefenbaker, decided that income taxes greater than 50% were simply robbery).
Now it appears the Conservatives popularity is increasing. They will likely win the next election, increase taxes to cover the Liberals previous programs, and again find themselves kicked out at the following election.
And so proceeds the spending death of those Western democracy political parties claiming they are responsible government as they churn towards socialism, stateism, and a close approximation of communism.
Political parties always end up chasing the popular vote and being headed by idiots. The current global mess is not down to wrong parties. It is down to all p. parties. It is simply a bad method that always turns to crap. If harmony, stability and democracy are the aim then the voters need eschew p. parties and vote for independent candidates. Yeah. a big ask but everything else has been tried.
On 24 August 2001 the Palapa, a small Indonesian fishing boat overloaded with 433 mainly Hazara asylum-seekers from Afghanistan, became stranded in international waters about 140 kilometres north of Christmas Island.
The asylum-seekers were rescued by the Norwegian container ship, the MV Tampa, under direction by the Australian Maritime Safety Authority.
The Tampa’s captain, Arne Rinnan, then set course for the Indonesian city of Merak, the closest port with facilities to dock such a large vessel. However, some of those rescued threatened to commit suicide if they were returned to Indonesia. Others entered the ship’s bridge, and told Rinnan to take them to Christmas Island.
However, the Australian Government refused to allow the Tampa to land any of the asylum-seekers. Prime Minister John Howard said, ‘I believe it is in Australia’s national interest that we draw a line on what is increasingly becoming an uncontrollable number of illegal arrivals in this country.’
It was 15 years ago when the then new Labor government tries to ease the policy and boats started coming again so the strict policy was restored.
Good luck with Reform UK. UK is the essence of woke and going broke fast.
strativarius
October 22, 2023 3:38 am
Young Greta provided both nuisance and humour this week. Aside from two demonstrations and an arrest, she also showed her true colours in other areas. Where better than X to signal your virtue?
“The 20-year-old wrote: ‘Today we are striking in solidarity with Palestine and Gaza. The world needs to speak up and call for an immediate ceasefire, justice and freedom for Palestinians and all civilians affected.’
Had she gone to school she may well have learned some [real] history, for example, about things like the meeting between a certain German leader and Haj Amin al-Husseini – the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
[AH told the Mufti] 2. At some moment which was impossible to set exactly today but which in any event was not distant, the German armies would in the course of this struggle reach the southern exit from Caucasia. 3. As soon as this had happened, the Fuhrer would on his own give the Arab world the assurance that its hour of liberation had arrived. Germany’s objective would then be solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere under the protection of British power. In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative spokesman for the Arab world. It would then be his task to set off the Arab operations, which he had secretly prepared. https://www.timesofisrael.com/full-official-record-what-the-mufti-said-to-hitler/
Greta should stick to what she knows(sic) – like watching flows of Carbon dioxide coming out of chimneys and changing the atmosphere in a landfill.
Does the colour blue hold any significance as an anti-Israeli or anti-semitic concept, specifically in this case of the octopus, who’s significance has already been identified?
Don’t know, I was just wondering why everyone was drawing attention to the fact it was a blue octopus rather than just an octupus which, apparently, is very bad in its own right.
To me it seems that the set was clean and without any clutter apart from the presence of a blue octopus, I think it probably was intentional.
Some might argue that Greta and friends were the clutter, can’t argue with that.
Had she gone to school she may well have learned some [real] history, for example, about things like the meeting between a certain German leader and Haj Amin al-Husseini – the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
I have no patience for the tedious little troll but I did go to school, for a long time, and I never knew about the meeting you recount above. Also I was well into my fifties before I became aware of the octopus motif in anti-Jewish cartooning.
Which just goes to show the wisdom of your advice that she (like all of us) should take care not to be recruited to “nice” causes because they sound nice. A lot of things that sound nice turn out to be plain evil. (Examples available upon request.)
Just as I thought. No semblance of evidence and yet two people upvoted this vile despicable comment. Oh well, such is the filter for truth around here.
Thank you for the post that quoted her as saying…”“We are of course against any type of discrimination, and condemn antisemitism in all forms and shapes. This is non-negotiable……” So the woman who said she condemns antisemitism is an antisemite. Wow. So that makes her a climate science denier then coz she condemns climate denial. Got any other silly references?
Greta posted pro-Palestine/Anti-Israel/Anti-Semitic “trope” on her website. Then like many leftist,she deleted it when she was called out about it. Then she says she didn’t know it was Anti-Semitic. I guess being an ignorant racist is okay in your book. A lot of racism is due to ignorance.
“. . . that makes her a climate science denier . . . .”
Well, it’s your words. Denier is a silly stance for your side to claim. However she did think the world would end in 2023. I wonder who told her that? I guess she’s an ignorant climate activist too.
Some ardent anti-smokers used to be smokers. Maybe that’s in store for Greta when she finally learns the facts.
OMG What has communists got to do with this? Crazy…
Look if you can’t see this is nonsense then that’s on you. She is supporting the innocent people of Palestine. So do I. So do most thinking people. But, like her, I also support the innocent people of Israel. If you haven’t worked out that this is a hugely complex issue then “wow” is all I can say. The article you quoted was just a cheap pot shot at her, nothing more. Move on….
“Look if you can’t see this is nonsense then that’s on you.”
So antisemitism is nonsense?
“She is supporting the innocent people of Palestine. So do I. So do most thinking people.”
These innocent people voted for a terrorist group that wants the total destruction of Israel. Their preamble is the complete destruction of the Jewish state. The Palestinian thugs demonstrating in the US and elsewhere want to end Israel “from the river to the sea.” That is complete genocide. Congratulations for being in favor of genocide.
“But, like her, I also support the innocent people of Israel.”
By supporting terrorist? What a bunch of crap. You are supporting beheading babies and burning people alive. How does that support Israel?
“The article you quoted was just a cheap pot shot at her, nothing more.”
Initially you said it exonerated her, and now you say it doesn’t. Both of those statements can’t be true. Orwell had a word for your nonsense: “double-think.”
“Move on….”
I wish you would.
“OMG What has communists got to do with this? Crazy…”
Communists are crazy—thanks for pointing that out. I wish you wouldn’t invoke God in your comments—it isn’t becoming of a Communist atheist.
“What a pathetic sick comment.” “I found the phrase I wanted.”
It proves she is just a left-wing muppet with no ability to think critically or understand ‘the science’ (or politics, or history, or basic logic).
What are the odds that she believes the terrorist narrative that Israel caused the al-Ahli deaths despite US, Canadian, and French intelligence agencies confirming it was the terrorists themselves? I’d say 100%.
The Climate Change and Free Palestine movements are quite similar – they indoctrinate and exploit children to win a political PR battle. Greta (the uneducated autistic woman-child) is an ideal face for both.
Joseph Zorzin
October 22, 2023 4:00 am
Carbon: a weapon of financial control?
How carbon could be used to control us. We’ve all heard about carbon, and how it’s the most important focus for the future of our planet. But could it have serious financial consequences for people in society, especially those at the bottom? Many countries around the world have proposed Personal Carbon Allowances, otherwise known as PCAs. And just like a massive corporation that has to offset its carbon to negate the damage it does to the environment, the theory is that we as individuals should also have to do the same. However, there are some potential problems with this kind of system. When combined with a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC), your government could not only track your carbon usage, but also theoretically limit you from buying certain items, or bill you for using any carbon over your monthly limit. Which some argue takes away individual autonomy, and the right for a person to make their own choices.
A considerable measure of coercion will be needed to get a country to Net Zero. But the idea that digital currencies will be needed to implement it is wrong. Any government that is serious about it can easily implement measures under existing financial systems. And digital currencies are anyway not coming any time soon.
For example, they can raise the tax on gasoline. Charge selectively for entry into some areas. Ban ICE from parking. Ban them from company cars. Its been suggested in the UK to tax those who refuse to change out their gas boilers for heat pumps, but you could also do this by a simple rise in the standing charge as the proportion of homes on gas in a given area falls. Or by taxing gas and oil.
Digital currencies are the least worry.
The real question is what democracies will do when the parties implementing Net Zero and responsible for the disastrous consequences are kicked out at the polls. There is the stirring of a large animal in the undergrowth in the UK at the moment, in the shape of the Reform Party. One has come crashing out into the path in Holland.
What happens when this is general, and Net Zero becomes poison at the polls, that is the interesting and serious question. We are going to find out within five years in the UK, maybe sooner in Holland and Germany.
Concerning: Jaguar Land Rover (the car in the video) “”Report: 10,000 Jaguar Land Rover cars stuck waiting for parts”” here
Any particular ‘part’ we wonder////
In the case of the Evoque, it’s the part that makes it go without going bang or whoosh!
Joseph Zorzin
October 22, 2023 4:24 am
Will Happer: CO2, the Gas of Life | Tom Nelson Pod #158
David Dibbell
October 22, 2023 4:45 am
Let’s flip the viewpoint of the “greenhouse effect” from the surface to space. From space, what happens dynamically in the atmosphere to suppress the output of the longwave emitter just enough, so as to retain just enough absorbed solar energy down there on land and in the oceans and the atmosphere itself?
The formation and dissipation of clouds is by far the most important factor.
I have attached a plot of radiance vs “brightness temperature” that applies to the GOES East Band 16 images.
The formation and dissipation of clouds is by far the most important factor.
Yes.
for blackbody radiation enthusiasts:
From the surface looking up, the temperature of space, ~4K, has practically no influence on the rate of radiative transfer away from the surface @ ~288K.
The Earthly atmosphere exhibits an internal boundary between surface and space, dominated by the condensation of H20 @ ~273K.
This creates an opaque separator between surface and space i.e. condensed liquid and solid matter.
The radiative transfer between surface and internal atmospheric boundary separator is practically negligible, at most some function of delta T 288K-273K = radiative flux q.
The dominant radiative transfer mode for Stefan Boltzmann enthusiasts is from the condensed matter separation boundary, @ 273K, to space @ ~4K.
The surface temperature, 288K, is effectively decoupled from the OLR observed from spaceborne sensor. A computation of their radiative equivalent difference is physically meaningless.
It is solidification that occurs at 273K making the difference. The formed ice is highly reflective as well as creating an emitting deck for long wave to space.
The cloud reflection dominates Earth’s energy balance. Open ocean surface simply cannot sustain more than 30C due to the cloud persistence at this temperature.
hi RickWill. As you have noted, towards and surpassing 30C surface-air temperature, the vapor pressure saturation curve is becoming almost vertical.
Eventually, a critical temperature is reached, at which the growing demand for latent heat of vaporization counteracts any further increase in surface temperature.
Joseph Zorzin
October 22, 2023 6:09 am
Melting glaciers reveal hidden Viking artefacts – BBC News
Thousands of artefacts have been discovered so far, giving rise to a new field of study called glacial archaeology.
One of the scientists says the artifacts are becoming visible because of global warming. But neither he nor the BBC can draw the obvious conclusion that the area was once much warmer than now- long before fossil fuels.
Thanks for that link. It’s well worth putting these things out there. They probably carry more weight with the general public than many more dry articles refuting the catastrophe narrative.
I also took the trouble to read the recent story about the woman who set fire to “the Christmas Goat” in 2016.
Asked why she decided to do it, she responded: “That’s a good question. I think the main reason was that it was really funny.”
While not condoning it, it’s a sad sign of the times that I was glad she didn’t do it to save the planet from global warming.
Not completely new though – archaeologists have been finding artefacts that had been under ice for 1,500 years or more in the Mongolian Altai mountains for some years now. What I find interesting is that, although there appears to be a diverse and widespread group of artefacts in each location, they are from different time periods. Not every glacier froze or melted at the same time – different regions froze in the Bronze age (Otzi) and haven’t melted since, others like this one and the Altai sites have been frozen since the last grand minimum in the dark ages. Regional differences perhaps but interesting.
So have we been able to detect a change in LWIR at the top of the atmosphere from this increase? And have we finally pinned down the warning effect of water vapour? Knowing this would increase our knowledge about the upper range of possible anthropogenic global warming effects.
If there has been no change at all we can be sure that the water vapour effect is already saturated and greatly reduce the upper range of possible anthropogenic global warming effects.
From what I remember from the articles there was no clear resolution as to whether there would be a net warming or cooling effect and how it could be identified in either case. So probably not.
Thank you.
Although, if the effect of water vapour is not known even down to the sign then it pretty much debunks all the climate models.
Ben_Vorlich
October 22, 2023 12:13 pm
I’ve lived in Derby on and off since the early 1980s. I’ve cycled along the side ofthe River Derwent too many times to remember. This was the situation yesterday.
Three severe flood warnings are currently in place in Derby until further notice – meaning there is a “danger to life” due to rising flood waters caused by Storm Babet. The city is the only place in the whole country currently with these types of warnings in place. Derby Telegraph
The headline picture in this BBC report is of the building, Lombe’s Silk Mill the first successful silk throwing mill in Britain, on the left of the photograph.
But I’ve asked the council if the weirs on the River Derwent have added to the issues. There are three (I’m pretty sure definitely two) from this one in the city centre to a couple of miles down stream. The bridge over the Derwent from where the photo was taken doesn’t have a lot of clearance from the river surface even at summer levels. The city centre weir had a hydro eelectric generation plant added 10 years ago.
Building three 2 metre high weirs across a river which is flowing through a pretty flat flood plain is asking for trouble as far as I’m concerned.
As an addition to this story is the Derwent valley resrvoir fill data.
DERWENT VALLEY (3 Reservoirs) 76.3%
Howden 57.5%
Derwent 41.3%
Ladybower 94.3% largest of the three capacity 27869Ml
CARSINGTON 88.1% Pumped storage from River Derwent
I await with interest the data from tomorrow’s update, if it’s not 100% for all four then I’d be shocked.
Steve Z
October 22, 2023 12:18 pm
I never see any comments about the “Real Time Global Temperature” (updated every 1-2 minutes) that is posted on the right hand margin of this page.
The data (57.39 F as I write this) is somewhat complex, and perhaps unreliable, but it clearly supports the consensus at WUWT that we do not have significant global warming.
During the recent global heat wave, the minute-by-minute average temp deviation increased to about +0.7 F for several weeks. However, several weeks ago, the average deviation dropped back to +0.19 F. That is the approximate deviation range it had for many months before the heat wave.
A quick summary about how the data is collected and processed. The Global Temp deviation computer scans 50,000 to 70,000 temp stations every hour. They have been collecting this data for almost nine years. They compute a new 12 month running average every minute. Then, they compare the 12 month running average to a 30 year average to calculate the deviation. They do not explain how the 30 year average data was obtained.
They have four sources for real time temp data. Two of those sources are administered by NOAA. The other two sources generate temp data that are used by NOAA. Ocean temp buoys are highly concentrated in the Northern Hemisphere. Except for a string of about 50 ocean buoys that monitor El Nino, there are almost no ocean buoys in the southern oceans, except around Aus/NZ and Antarctica. I assume that land temp stations are also scarce in the Southern Hemisphere, but I cannot verify that.
Question to everyone…
Do you think the Real Time Global Temperature average (57.39 F) posted in the right hand margin of WUWT is useful and reliable?
general custer
October 22, 2023 3:50 pm
Local opposition of different constituencies has put enough pressure on state permitting authorities to cause the rejection of CO2 pipeline permit applications by Navigator CO2 Ventures and their subsequent abandonment of their Heartland Greenway project. Summit Carbon Solutions has been planning a similar pipe line project and plans to enlist the ethanol plants that had signed on to the Navigator CO2 plan and re-file their already rejected applications in North Dakota and South Dakota.
Summit’s intention is to sequester the CO2 from their project northwest of Bismarck, ND, a state that has already rejected their application.
One of the eye witnesses to the fire mentioned “how windy it is”, yet it looks like
half of the remaining turbines are not spinning. This is typical of most wind farms I see.
Building most of these things is such a waste.
In Vaclav Smil’s book “Invention & Innovation” (2023) he mentions how renewable energy sources (wind & solar) ~ “can require more fossil fuel usage for production, delivery & maintenance” [and then replace much of it every 15-20 years].
Madness!
There used to be a term for the cost of production, delivery, and maintenance: cost of ownership. Seems some people are OK with cost and delivery but play dumb when the cost of maintenance skyrockets. If the farmer had not picked his crops before the turbine combusted, the cost would have been inordinate. The surrounding communities did not have the capability to fight off a fire in a wind-swept, multi-acre field.
I did a somewhat deeper dive into CO2 forcing. I bet you didn’t know this..
https://greenhousedefect.com/unboxing-the-black-box
That was a lot of work ES. Good on you.
There is no such thing as “CO2 forcing”. In fact, the only radiative flow is the upward flux through the atmospheric window. All other radiation movement is local. I realize you did not originate this term, but once you start down this dead end street you will get lost.
Outside the atmospheric window all radiation from the surface is absorbed into the bulk atmosphere at a very low altitude. Energy then moves around through several mechanisms. Radiation is but one of them. The important concept is energy flux. It moves upward. There is no downward energy flux outside of solar energy.
Until this problem is understood all estimates of climate sensitivity will get the wrong answer.
The White House crowd is using bumbling, folksy, grifting/grafting Biden, to spread the word, fossil fuels, God’s gift to Mankind, are evil, and therefore, we need umpteen offshore wind turbines to cool down the boiling earth, for as long as it takes, while fighting a low-boil WW III, for as long as it takes.
US/UK 66,000 MW OF OFFSHORE WIND BY 2030; AN EXPENSIVE FANTASY
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/biden-30-000-mw-of-offshore-wind-systems-by-2030-a-total-fantasy
EXCERPT:
The US government has the fantasy of wanting to build 30,000 MW of offshore by 2030, i.e., just 7 years, but several companies, building projects for Massachusetts, will be allowed to walk away from the signed PPAs, and rebid at much higher prices next year.
The UK government has the fantasy of wanting to build 36,000 MW of offshore by 2030
That means placing in operation 66,000/7 = 9,428 MW of wind turbines/y, during 2024 through 2030
The continent-based European big wind companies currently have an offshore capacity of about 4,000 MW/y
These companies prefer the U.S. market, because Biden’s “Inflation-Reduction-Act” (IRA) has higher subsidies than the UK.
The IRA has “bonus” subsidies for domestic content requirements to create US jobs and US wind infrastructures
However, the EU is urging Biden to ignore the domestic content requirements, so Europe would receive “bonus” subsidies to create European jobs to build factories, ports, cranes, specialized ships, etc., for manufacturing and erecting wind turbines to increase EU wind turbine exports to the US, UK, and other markets in future years.
The EU has a high-level goal to shame the US, rich in energy and other resources, into the wind/solar/battery blackhole, using UN IPCC scare-mongering about global-warming
NOTE: The specialized ships and cranes, almost all owned by European companies, are very expensive and take 3 to 4 years to design and build. They are booked years in advance, with upfront cancellation fees in escrow. Their lack of availability, even at high fees, delays projects, which increases $/installed MW
NOTE: The US will have at least a $1.0 trillion trade deficit, plus a $1.695 trillion federal budget deficit in 2023. The US is in no position to engage in giveaways.
NOTE:
About 7,000 MW of offshore wind bids were awarded by the UK 4th Auction, in 2022
No bids were submitted for the UK 5th Auction, in 2023; European companies protesting low UK subsidies.
No bids were submitted for a new floating offshore wind project off the coast of Scotland.
The pro-wind bureaucrats and Media, in the impoverished State of Maine, want to build 3000 MW of floaters by 2040!
NOTE: The Net-Zero by 2050 Ship Starting to Sink
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-net-zero-by-2050-ship-starting-to-sink
Six Items of Interest
C40 Cities needs to be brought out into the sunlight.
Site blocked
La-la-la-la?
I withdraw that sarcastic response. You were trying to alert me that the link is broken.
Maybe this will work: https://www.c40.org/
I saw the site.
I think it is a summary of mind-numbing-dumbing sickness, induced by ilks, such as Guterres, WEF, IPCC, using the foghorn of the subsidized, lapdog Media, and the perverted/bought academia.
One has to feel sorry for young people and parents who will have to put up with all this BS, unless they finally revolt big time to neuter the oppressors.
???
Can’t open the link and get the hint it’s blocked.
The first, the second works, thx.
Ah yes, Sadiq Khan’s empire building project. He really is getting very inventive, always trying to find new ways to fail upwards.
Here’s how to do it…
1) Think of eco sounding name for your “foundation”.
2) Put up a few page website of eco looking pics. Beach trash, skinny kids, icebergs, big eyed animals are good. A turtle in a fisherman’s net is golden.
3) Make it sound like you actively distribute funds to eco causes, research, and education of children….the closer to wildlife poachers the better. Start by sending $10 to Greenpeace. Sponsor $200 to a local kids team to pick up ditch litter or beach trash. Take pics for your website.
4) Solicit funds from governments, Bloomberg, etc. You can get a list with a simple search query. But most of your funds will come from organizations who are already soliciting government funds to the max and will send it some of it to you. It’s almost analagous to money laundering by drug dealers whose biggest problem is getting rid of the pallets of cash in their storage unit.
5) As long as your website seems to match your donation request, more money than you ever dreamed of will come rolling in from organizations that have basically done the same as you are doing…. sponging off other organization that are trying to impress their donators with how much good they are doing by distributing funds.
6) Keep as much money as you can personally, ostensibly for managing the eco-scam. Spend the rest of the money expanding the eco-scam. Most tax jurisdictions will have a charitable foundation status for you, and you can pay yourself a management fee of 15 to 50 % of the funds raised without raising too many eyebrows. Plus you can travel anywhere and live the high life and claim it all as an expense of the foundation. You might actually have to visit some poverty stricken shit-hole in between stays at the tourist beaches to get the photo ops you need for your website. Buy real estate in a tropical place for your CO2 sequestration tree plantation, (but really for future retirement or real estate speculation).
I actually had a person who ran a charity collecting basic necessities for the “underprivileged” tell me they collected $3.5 million in cash donations “on the side” in small bills. I’m guessing there might be some temptation involved with reporting that much cash income.
I completely agree. Look up their report, “The future of urban consumption in a 1.5 degree world.” You have to download the report to read the whole thing. It sets an ambitious target of zero kgs of meat and Dairy consumption per person by 2050.
I will try and find a link and post it.
Arup
https://www.arup.com › filesPDF
THE FUTURE OF URBAN CONSUMPTION IN A 1.5°C WORLD …
Here is the link to the pdf
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.arup.com/-/media/arup/files/publications/c/arup-c40-the-future-of-urban-consumption-in-a-1-5c-world.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjPoOr_oYqCAxVYxGEKHYkYAbkQFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Rmdz_2A8T-nRPeFs2qcmY
Hopefully this will work.
Richard Tice, the head of Reform, a small right leaning party in the UK, announcing they are planning to contest every seat at the next general election. From the Telegraph. My emphasis.
Reform UK will stand in every seat in England, Scotland and Wales, and help ensure that the Conservatives are dismissed from office. This is an essential part in the process of turning the country round and saving Britain. It will take some time. But it must be done.
As more and more people hear about our party and look at our policies, they are realising that there is another group, with a serious track record of success in business, that can fulfil the contract the Conservatives broke with the electorate.
We talk about the difficult issues that Westminster does not want discussed in polite company. We say what millions of voters really feel, but Westminster refuses to understand. We tell it as it is on the problems of mass lawful and illegal immigration, and offer a clear plan to stop the boats by replicating what Australia successfully did some ten years ago.
We challenge the absurdity of Net Zero – the greatest act of financial self-harm ever imposed on a country by its leaders – that will achieve nothing but sending our jobs and money overseas, to geopolitical rivals who laugh at our naivete.
We object to the woke ideology that is poisoning our public and private sector institutions. And we believe that allowing gender questioning and transitioning in schools is a dangerous breach of safeguarding, that should be stopped immediately.
I live in the only place in Britain with Reform Councillors and mayor. What can be said is they work hard at keeping in contact with grass roots.
https://www.reformderby.uk/
That sounds like a party I would want to vote for.
“a small right leaning party in the UK”, I’m a member of the Reform Party and we like to think of ourselves as the common sense party; anti woke, secure borders, zero GP waiting lists and lower taxes. As one of our speakers said at our last meeting “it’s a sign of madness to keep voting for the same old thing and expect a different result.” Nothing has really changed in British politics for decades and I can’t bring myself to vote for any of the continuation parties and I don’t think of myself as a right wing voter, just someone who is fed up of being taken for granted by politicians.
It may be madness to keep voting for the same old thing but where was the choice? Reform may be that much-needed breath of fresh air in politics, I certainly hope so because something has got to change with the big 3 parties.
Let me recount a bit of Canadian electoral history….in 1984 Mulroney’s Conservatives won a landslide election after voters were fed up of 20 years of Liberal party patronage to businesses in Liberal constituencies. Unfortunately the Conservatives policy was “austerity” which necessitated over 100 tax increases…..which proved unpopular with voters….resulted in only 2 seats for Conservatives in the next election….and again profligate Liberal spending (of the increased tax base) for the following decade.
In 1994, the Reform Party won many seats but the Liberals held the government because of splitting the “right wing” vote. (Which you are likely to experience with your reform party) By 2004 the Reform party and Conservative party united under Harper to eliminate the vote splitting….and won the election.
Again the new Conservative government implemented spending austerity…..also did manage to win a second election. They lost the following election even though they had a percent or so more of the popular vote than the winning Liberals due.
Then… Thanks to CoVid and a keep-up-with-US spending mentality, the Liberals were able to ratchet up their high-spending plan to levels that hadn’t been seen as a percentage of GDP since WW2 (while neglecting to point out to the public that personal income tax after WW2 had a max bracket of 95% tax rate by the 1950’s until another Conservative, Diefenbaker, decided that income taxes greater than 50% were simply robbery).
Now it appears the Conservatives popularity is increasing. They will likely win the next election, increase taxes to cover the Liberals previous programs, and again find themselves kicked out at the following election.
And so proceeds the spending death of those Western democracy political parties claiming they are responsible government as they churn towards socialism, stateism, and a close approximation of communism.
Political parties always end up chasing the popular vote and being headed by idiots. The current global mess is not down to wrong parties. It is down to all p. parties. It is simply a bad method that always turns to crap. If harmony, stability and democracy are the aim then the voters need eschew p. parties and vote for independent candidates. Yeah. a big ask but everything else has been tried.
It is now 22 years since the Tampa was sent back to Indonesia. That event marked the beginning of Australia’s strict border policy:
https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/tampa-affair
It was 15 years ago when the then new Labor government tries to ease the policy and boats started coming again so the strict policy was restored.
Good luck with Reform UK. UK is the essence of woke and going broke fast.
Young Greta provided both nuisance and humour this week. Aside from two demonstrations and an arrest, she also showed her true colours in other areas. Where better than X to signal your virtue?
“The 20-year-old wrote: ‘Today we are striking in solidarity with Palestine and Gaza. The world needs to speak up and call for an immediate ceasefire, justice and freedom for Palestinians and all civilians affected.’
While many criticised her for failing to condemn Hamas attacks on Israel, others questioned why the image of her with three other activists featured a blue octopus”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12653419/greta-thunberg-fury-pro-palestine-post-israel-hamas-terrorism-climate-change.html
Had she gone to school she may well have learned some [real] history, for example, about things like the meeting between a certain German leader and Haj Amin al-Husseini – the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
[AH told the Mufti]
2. At some moment which was impossible to set exactly today but which in any event was not distant, the German armies would in the course of this struggle reach the southern exit from Caucasia.
3. As soon as this had happened, the Fuhrer would on his own give the Arab world the assurance that its hour of liberation had arrived. Germany’s objective would then be solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere under the protection of British power. In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative spokesman for the Arab world. It would then be his task to set off the Arab operations, which he had secretly prepared.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/full-official-record-what-the-mufti-said-to-hitler/
Greta should stick to what she knows(sic) – like watching flows of Carbon dioxide coming out of chimneys and changing the atmosphere in a landfill.
Does the colour blue hold any significance as an anti-Israeli or anti-semitic concept, specifically in this case of the octopus, who’s significance has already been identified?
The flag?
Don’t know, I was just wondering why everyone was drawing attention to the fact it was a blue octopus rather than just an octupus which, apparently, is very bad in its own right.
To me it seems that the set was clean and without any clutter apart from the presence of a blue octopus, I think it probably was intentional.
Some might argue that Greta and friends were the clutter, can’t argue with that.
Marketing.
Associate your company with an unusually exotic animal and the venture capitalists lap it up.
I have no patience for the tedious little troll but I did go to school, for a long time, and I never knew about the meeting you recount above. Also I was well into my fifties before I became aware of the octopus motif in anti-Jewish cartooning.
Which just goes to show the wisdom of your advice that she (like all of us) should take care not to be recruited to “nice” causes because they sound nice. A lot of things that sound nice turn out to be plain evil. (Examples available upon request.)
Unlike Greta these things are never simple
Which is why I think Greta and her agents were probably ignorant,
My opinion of her is very low but I see no good reason to think she is anti-semitic.
She is just too stupid.
Her handlers aren’t stupid
Of course she’s an anti-Semite. Her politics and bigotry is entirely unoriginal and comes straight from the young socialists’ guidebook.
Her love for Hamas is as predictable as the velvet glove treatment she receives from the media and the police.
“Of course she’s an anti-Semite.”
Proof please?????
Just as I thought. No semblance of evidence and yet two people upvoted this vile despicable comment. Oh well, such is the filter for truth around here.
Why don’t you use your own search browser to find this stuff. Why do people here have to lead you by the nose?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/greta-thunberg-deletes-pro-palestinian-post-featuring-antisemitic-trope-claims-she-was-completely-unaware/ar-AA1iA601
Thank you for the post that quoted her as saying…”“We are of course against any type of discrimination, and condemn antisemitism in all forms and shapes. This is non-negotiable……”
So the woman who said she condemns antisemitism is an antisemite. Wow. So that makes her a climate science denier then coz she condemns climate denial. Got any other silly references?
“Got any other silly references? ”
Yeah, here’s one:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/03/14/should-have-gone-to-school-greta-deletes-tweet-predicting-disaster-by-2023/
Greta posted pro-Palestine/Anti-Israel/Anti-Semitic “trope” on her website. Then like many leftist,she deleted it when she was called out about it. Then she says she didn’t know it was Anti-Semitic. I guess being an ignorant racist is okay in your book. A lot of racism is due to ignorance.
“. . . that makes her a climate science denier . . . .”
Well, it’s your words. Denier is a silly stance for your side to claim. However she did think the world would end in 2023. I wonder who told her that? I guess she’s an ignorant climate activist too.
Some ardent anti-smokers used to be smokers. Maybe that’s in store for Greta when she finally learns the facts.
“ I guess being an ignorant racist is okay in your book. “
What a pathetic sick comment.
I think the phrase you’re looking for is, “How dare you!”
I found the phrase I wanted.
I was going to let it pass, but since you persist.
It’s interesting that after Communists do something that looks wrong, they think they can seize the moral high ground.
You praised–even lauded–a position that Greta was forced to take, and you failed to point out her first position which was anti-Semitic.
OMG What has communists got to do with this? Crazy…
Look if you can’t see this is nonsense then that’s on you. She is supporting the innocent people of Palestine. So do I. So do most thinking people. But, like her, I also support the innocent people of Israel. If you haven’t worked out that this is a hugely complex issue then “wow” is all I can say. The article you quoted was just a cheap pot shot at her, nothing more. Move on….
“Look if you can’t see this is nonsense then that’s on you.”
So antisemitism is nonsense?
“She is supporting the innocent people of Palestine. So do I. So do most thinking people.”
These innocent people voted for a terrorist group that wants the total destruction of Israel. Their preamble is the complete destruction of the Jewish state. The Palestinian thugs demonstrating in the US and elsewhere want to end Israel “from the river to the sea.” That is complete genocide. Congratulations for being in favor of genocide.
“But, like her, I also support the innocent people of Israel.”
By supporting terrorist? What a bunch of crap. You are supporting beheading babies and burning people alive. How does that support Israel?
“The article you quoted was just a cheap pot shot at her, nothing more.”
Initially you said it exonerated her, and now you say it doesn’t. Both of those statements can’t be true. Orwell had a word for your nonsense: “double-think.”
“Move on….”
I wish you would.
“OMG What has communists got to do with this? Crazy…”
Communists are crazy—thanks for pointing that out. I wish you wouldn’t invoke God in your comments—it isn’t becoming of a Communist atheist.
“What a pathetic sick comment.” “I found the phrase I wanted.”
Yes, you obviously know where your opinions lie.
Ok you are one sick puppy….
But I’ve had all my shots!
It proves she is just a left-wing muppet with no ability to think critically or understand ‘the science’ (or politics, or history, or basic logic).
What are the odds that she believes the terrorist narrative that Israel caused the al-Ahli deaths despite US, Canadian, and French intelligence agencies confirming it was the terrorists themselves? I’d say 100%.
The Climate Change and Free Palestine movements are quite similar – they indoctrinate and exploit children to win a political PR battle. Greta (the uneducated autistic woman-child) is an ideal face for both.
Carbon: a weapon of financial control?
A considerable measure of coercion will be needed to get a country to Net Zero. But the idea that digital currencies will be needed to implement it is wrong. Any government that is serious about it can easily implement measures under existing financial systems. And digital currencies are anyway not coming any time soon.
For example, they can raise the tax on gasoline. Charge selectively for entry into some areas. Ban ICE from parking. Ban them from company cars. Its been suggested in the UK to tax those who refuse to change out their gas boilers for heat pumps, but you could also do this by a simple rise in the standing charge as the proportion of homes on gas in a given area falls. Or by taxing gas and oil.
Digital currencies are the least worry.
The real question is what democracies will do when the parties implementing Net Zero and responsible for the disastrous consequences are kicked out at the polls. There is the stirring of a large animal in the undergrowth in the UK at the moment, in the shape of the Reform Party. One has come crashing out into the path in Holland.
What happens when this is general, and Net Zero becomes poison at the polls, that is the interesting and serious question. We are going to find out within five years in the UK, maybe sooner in Holland and Germany.
You still need to get your EVs while they’re hot.
Concerning: Jaguar Land Rover (the car in the video) “”Report: 10,000 Jaguar Land Rover cars stuck waiting for parts””
here
Any particular ‘part’ we wonder////
In the case of the Evoque, it’s the part that makes it go without going bang or whoosh!
Will Happer: CO2, the Gas of Life | Tom Nelson Pod #158
Let’s flip the viewpoint of the “greenhouse effect” from the surface to space. From space, what happens dynamically in the atmosphere to suppress the output of the longwave emitter just enough, so as to retain just enough absorbed solar energy down there on land and in the oceans and the atmosphere itself?
The formation and dissipation of clouds is by far the most important factor.
I have attached a plot of radiance vs “brightness temperature” that applies to the GOES East Band 16 images.
And here is a time-lapse video from early August to help make this point.
https://youtu.be/Yarzo13_TSE
Yes.
for blackbody radiation enthusiasts:
From the surface looking up, the temperature of space, ~4K, has practically no influence on the rate of radiative transfer away from the surface @ ~288K.
The Earthly atmosphere exhibits an internal boundary between surface and space, dominated by the condensation of H20 @ ~273K.
This creates an opaque separator between surface and space i.e. condensed liquid and solid matter.
The radiative transfer between surface and internal atmospheric boundary separator is practically negligible, at most some function of delta T 288K-273K = radiative flux q.
The dominant radiative transfer mode for Stefan Boltzmann enthusiasts is from the condensed matter separation boundary, @ 273K, to space @ ~4K.
The surface temperature, 288K, is effectively decoupled from the OLR observed from spaceborne sensor. A computation of their radiative equivalent difference is physically meaningless.
It is solidification that occurs at 273K making the difference. The formed ice is highly reflective as well as creating an emitting deck for long wave to space.
The cloud reflection dominates Earth’s energy balance. Open ocean surface simply cannot sustain more than 30C due to the cloud persistence at this temperature.
hi RickWill. As you have noted, towards and surpassing 30C surface-air temperature, the vapor pressure saturation curve is becoming almost vertical.
Eventually, a critical temperature is reached, at which the growing demand for latent heat of vaporization counteracts any further increase in surface temperature.
Melting glaciers reveal hidden Viking artefacts – BBC News
One of the scientists says the artifacts are becoming visible because of global warming. But neither he nor the BBC can draw the obvious conclusion that the area was once much warmer than now- long before fossil fuels.
Did they find any of the tools that the Vikings used to burrow under the ice? 🙂
They used coal & oil soaked bonfires.
But they did buy offset carbon credits from the Celts, so that made it all ok.
‘Yes sir, officer obie, Icannot tell a lie, I put that envelope under that pile of garbage’
I have posted this before.
https://www.icelandreview.com/news/3000-year-old-trees-excavated-under-glacier/
Thanks for that link. It’s well worth putting these things out there. They probably carry more weight with the general public than many more dry articles refuting the catastrophe narrative.
I also took the trouble to read the recent story about the woman who set fire to “the Christmas Goat” in 2016.
Asked why she decided to do it, she responded: “That’s a good question. I think the main reason was that it was really funny.”
While not condoning it, it’s a sad sign of the times that I was glad she didn’t do it to save the planet from global warming.
https://www.icelandreview.com/society/woman-who-set-ikea-christmas-goat-on-fire-regrets-nothing/
Let’s hope that she doesn’t suddenly start finding people funny.
Not completely new though – archaeologists have been finding artefacts that had been under ice for 1,500 years or more in the Mongolian Altai mountains for some years now. What I find interesting is that, although there appears to be a diverse and widespread group of artefacts in each location, they are from different time periods. Not every glacier froze or melted at the same time – different regions froze in the Bronze age (Otzi) and haven’t melted since, others like this one and the Altai sites have been frozen since the last grand minimum in the dark ages. Regional differences perhaps but interesting.
I came across this report detailing flashflooding in Devon and Cornwall going back several centuries. Nothing new under the sun.
https://www.jbatrust.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Southwest-Devon-and-Cornwall.pdf
This is one of several regional reports covering the whole of England.
https://www.jbatrust.org/how-we-help/publications-resources/rivers-and-coasts/uk-chronology-of-flash-floods-1/
At the start of last year a volcano raised the stratospheric water vapour level by 10%.
That’s a significant change. We can measure it.
So have we been able to detect a change in LWIR at the top of the atmosphere from this increase? And have we finally pinned down the warning effect of water vapour? Knowing this would increase our knowledge about the upper range of possible anthropogenic global warming effects.
If there has been no change at all we can be sure that the water vapour effect is already saturated and greatly reduce the upper range of possible anthropogenic global warming effects.
I’ve heard nothing on this. Has anybody else?
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/08/02/tonga-eruption-blasted-unprecedented-amount-of-water-into-stratosphere/
There are three other articles on this site walking about the extra water vapor put into the atmosphere.
Yes. I’ve been reading WUWT for decades.
The question is about whether anyone has used these observations to quantify the warming effect.
From what I remember from the articles there was no clear resolution as to whether there would be a net warming or cooling effect and how it could be identified in either case. So probably not.
Thank you.
Although, if the effect of water vapour is not known even down to the sign then it pretty much debunks all the climate models.
I’ve lived in Derby on and off since the early 1980s. I’ve cycled along the side ofthe River Derwent too many times to remember. This was the situation yesterday.
Three severe flood warnings are currently in place in Derby until further notice – meaning there is a “danger to life” due to rising flood waters caused by Storm Babet. The city is the only place in the whole country currently with these types of warnings in place.
Derby Telegraph
The headline picture in this BBC report is of the building, Lombe’s Silk Mill the first successful silk throwing mill in Britain, on the left of the photograph.
But I’ve asked the council if the weirs on the River Derwent have added to the issues. There are three (I’m pretty sure definitely two) from this one in the city centre to a couple of miles down stream. The bridge over the Derwent from where the photo was taken doesn’t have a lot of clearance from the river surface even at summer levels. The city centre weir had a hydro eelectric generation plant added 10 years ago.
Building three 2 metre high weirs across a river which is flowing through a pretty flat flood plain is asking for trouble as far as I’m concerned.
As an addition to this story is the Derwent valley resrvoir fill data.
DERWENT VALLEY (3 Reservoirs) 76.3%
Howden 57.5%
Derwent 41.3%
Ladybower 94.3% largest of the three capacity 27869Ml
CARSINGTON 88.1% Pumped storage from River Derwent
I await with interest the data from tomorrow’s update, if it’s not 100% for all four then I’d be shocked.
I never see any comments about the “Real Time Global Temperature” (updated every 1-2 minutes) that is posted on the right hand margin of this page.
The data (57.39 F as I write this) is somewhat complex, and perhaps unreliable, but it clearly supports the consensus at WUWT that we do not have significant global warming.
During the recent global heat wave, the minute-by-minute average temp deviation increased to about +0.7 F for several weeks. However, several weeks ago, the average deviation dropped back to +0.19 F. That is the approximate deviation range it had for many months before the heat wave.
A quick summary about how the data is collected and processed. The Global Temp deviation computer scans 50,000 to 70,000 temp stations every hour. They have been collecting this data for almost nine years. They compute a new 12 month running average every minute. Then, they compare the 12 month running average to a 30 year average to calculate the deviation. They do not explain how the 30 year average data was obtained.
They have four sources for real time temp data. Two of those sources are administered by NOAA. The other two sources generate temp data that are used by NOAA. Ocean temp buoys are highly concentrated in the Northern Hemisphere. Except for a string of about 50 ocean buoys that monitor El Nino, there are almost no ocean buoys in the southern oceans, except around Aus/NZ and Antarctica. I assume that land temp stations are also scarce in the Southern Hemisphere, but I cannot verify that.
Question to everyone…
Do you think the Real Time Global Temperature average (57.39 F) posted in the right hand margin of WUWT is useful and reliable?
Local opposition of different constituencies has put enough pressure on state permitting authorities to cause the rejection of CO2 pipeline permit applications by Navigator CO2 Ventures and their subsequent abandonment of their Heartland Greenway project. Summit Carbon Solutions has been planning a similar pipe line project and plans to enlist the ethanol plants that had signed on to the Navigator CO2 plan and re-file their already rejected applications in North Dakota and South Dakota.
Summit’s intention is to sequester the CO2 from their project northwest of Bismarck, ND, a state that has already rejected their application.
Another one bites the dust. No explanation yet.
One of the eye witnesses to the fire mentioned “how windy it is”, yet it looks like
half of the remaining turbines are not spinning. This is typical of most wind farms I see.
Building most of these things is such a waste.
In Vaclav Smil’s book “Invention & Innovation” (2023) he mentions how renewable energy sources (wind & solar) ~ “can require more fossil fuel usage for production, delivery & maintenance” [and then replace much of it every 15-20 years].
Madness!
There used to be a term for the cost of production, delivery, and maintenance: cost of ownership. Seems some people are OK with cost and delivery but play dumb when the cost of maintenance skyrockets. If the farmer had not picked his crops before the turbine combusted, the cost would have been inordinate. The surrounding communities did not have the capability to fight off a fire in a wind-swept, multi-acre field.
Another nail in the global warming hoax’s coffin:
https://www.ssb.no/en/natur-og-miljo/forurensning-og-klima/artikler/to-what-extent-are-temperature-levels-changing-due-to-greenhouse-gas-emissions/_/attachment/inline/5a3f4a9b-3bc3-4988-9579-9fea82944264:f63064594b9225f9d7dc458b0b70a646baec3339/DP1007.pdf
Story tip
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67191655 I saw some of this and wasn’t disappointed in that the pro anthropogenic climate change message wasn’t missing/sarc