I submitted a “Request a correction or clarification to a story” ticket also with Fox News last night over the location error. As of midday today, 12/22/23, the story has been corrected.

Well, this graph, going further back in time, indicates it is problematic that “global” temperature and atmospheric CO2 level are in any way interdependent.

Considering both graphs together, the implication is that any interdependence of atmospheric global temperatures and global atmospheric CO2 concentration ceases when CO2 levels are above about 400 ppm.

Fishing boats?

+42 galactic credits!

“Horta Culture” . . . what an excellent—albeit oblique—reference!

I wonder how many WUWT readers are old enough to be fans of the TV series that “boldly” postulated such life existing.

From the head post, it sounds like at least some of the PCFFA members know exactly how bad of an idea that would be.

Good catch on the error in the Fox News article, I’ll try to alert the reporter via email, but my experience over the years is that Fox News folks do not look at their public email inbox. It’s King County in Washington state, and that particular King County v. BP, Chevron, ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch and ConocoPhillips was definitely still self-dismissed back at the end of Sept 2021, official U.S. District Court, Western District of Washington at Seattle court filing here.

The International Energy Agency said human CO2 emissions dropped 6% in 2020, but if you look at the graph there is no change in the rate of growth of CO2 in the atmosphere.
https://www.iea.org/reports/global-energy-review-2020/global-energy-and-co2-emissions-in-2020
https://www.co2.earth/monthly-co2

Here is also a link to a new small preprint that says that atmospheric CO2 follows temperature changes, not leads them. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Allan-Emren/publication/372047312_Global_temperatures_CO2_concentrations_and_oceans/links/64d7486b25837316ee0710d4/Global-temperatures-CO2-concentrations-and-oceans.pdf

They could also be powered by Nuclear, Naval Subs and some Aircraft Carriers already are…Just sayin

Abstract
During the past 170 years, temperatures and atmospheric CO2 concentrations have increased. Published data on global temperature, CO2 data, and data on sea ice in the Arctic have been investigated. It is seen that support for human activities causing the observed increases is weak. It is found that the rate of change in CO2 concentration is controlled by global temperature rather than vice versa. To stop the growing concentration, the temperature has first to be decreased by about 1.4 K. This makes it questionable if attempts by humans to modify the global temperature or the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere will give any noticeable result. A correlation is found between seasonal variations in CO2 concentrations and Arctic sea ice quantities. The present increase in CO2 concentration and temperature is similar to one 55 million years ago, indicating that the Earth passed a ‘tipping point’ around 1750.

ResearcgGate Preprint: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Allan-Emren/publication/372047312_Global_temperatures_CO2_concentrations_and_oceans/links/64d7486b25837316ee0710d4/Global-temperatures-CO2-concentrations-and-oceans.pdf

This chart from AJNE.ORG if extended to today’s CO2 concentration levels would indicate a potential anomaly of 17-18°C should be induced by current CO2 levels
https://www.ajne.org/sites/default/files/co2-charts.png
Clearly Temperature can drive natural CO2 levels but increasing CO2 levels aren’t proportionally driving Temperatures

THere are, but they have to be applied by judges.
And who are the biggest contributors to judges re-election coffers?
Attorneys.

Hmmm, Silicon based Lifeform…Si Lifeform society…Horta Culture

I don’t know about elemental C, but from what I’ve seen, Big Bands probably do produce a lot of CO2 when they play…

Yes, but come on. We all know that’s not what is being discussed.

We’re talking about whether rising atmospheric CO2 levels will drive the Earth’s average temperature ever higher in a self-feeding runaway loop, which there is ZERO evidence FOR and PLENTY of evidence AGAINST.

Opps . . . obviously “Big Bang“, not “Big Band” . . . but still somewhat funny in context.

Also this: “life” as we know it is poorly defined . . . is a seed a living thing? Is a dormant virus a living thing? Does life on Earth represent the totality of chemical structures available for “life” to exist elsewhere in the universe? Will silicon- or quantum-device AI ever be bestowed with the title of being “alive”?

So many questions, so few intelligent answers.

Stellar astrophysicists might ague it results from supernovae of a previous generation stars.

Cosmologists might argue that it is the inevitable result of the Big Band.

Theologians might argue it was created by God.

Logicians might argue that it is illogical to assert carbon can be associated with a “first link” in a chain leading to the existence of life.

A Zen master might ask “Why do seek an answer to such a frivolous question?”

FYI, Naomi Oreskes absolutely bristles at being called a communist … albeit her tale of being labeled specifically as such by Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe takes on the appearance of being a composite fabrication in order for her to brag about the label being hurled at her. Myself, I wouldn’t call her a simple communist, but instead a “communism for thee, but not for me” rich ski bunny who somehow has enough extra cash to burn that she could fly all the way from Massachusetts to Los Angeles just to talk to another ski bunny at that person’s ‘Protect Ski Bunny Snow’ Los Angeles Bradbury Building headquarters …….. when Oreskes could talked about the ‘end-of-snow’ topic via a Zoom call instead.

I believe it was Willis that posted a list right from the pages of the IPCC’s latest report (the scientific reports that supposedly form its basis but are clearly ignored as their “narrative” becomes ever more alarmist), which list was about as long as my sleeve, of all the types of “bad weather” or bad “weather related” events that ARE NOT SHOWING ANY EVIDENCE OF GETTING WORSE because of so-called “climate change.”

It would be great to have a quick link to that list, by the way!

If I was a judge, the first thing on the agenda would be for EVIDENCE OF SUPPOSED HARM FROM CLIMATE CHANGE, followed by EVIDENCE THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS CAUSED BY AN INCREASE IN ATMOSPHERIC CO2, followed by EVIDENCE THAT ATMOSPHERIC CO2 LEVELS ARE DRIVEN BY HUMAN CO2 EMISSIONS.

I doubt that a standard of proof could be met for ANY of the three that would be admissible as FACT for the purposes of trial, much less all three!

And for anyone who failed to establish all three, I’d hit them with the biggest fine I could under law for malicious prosecution.

You can go back a few years, when the part of the season was closed in San Fran area, and northern California. The Association wanted it to stay closed. Why? It appears that it was so they could be eligible for and get the economic welfare for not working.

“In response to the large-scale impacts of domoic acid in the California Dungeness crab and rock crab fisheries during the 2015-16 fishing season, the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) allocated $25.8M in disaster relief funds to the state of California.”

When the closure was ended, and some fishers went to work, the association didn’t like it.

It appears … just appears, that the same weasels are still in charge.