Comments on: Atmosphere Page https://wattsupwiththat.com The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate change Fri, 01 Sep 2017 10:53:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: harrytodd https://wattsupwiththat.com/atmosphere-page/#comment-525620 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 10:53:11 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?page_id=32705#comment-525620 If you are interested in reading about a brand new theory concerning global climate change, connect to
this link on a desktop monitor and study the graphics. It concerns ozone holes and wandering magnetic poles.
https://www.harrytodd.org

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By: Mike https://wattsupwiththat.com/atmosphere-page/#comment-525619 Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:53:00 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?page_id=32705#comment-525619 The source of the image in question;
is US Navel Research Laboratory – Navy Operational Global…..
Is this a ‘Navel gazing’ entity or a US Naval facility??
Cheers
Mike M

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By: Steve in Seattle https://wattsupwiththat.com/atmosphere-page/#comment-525618 Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:10:01 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?page_id=32705#comment-525618 Why did you give up on UNISYS SST Anomoly ? ?

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By: Efstathios https://wattsupwiththat.com/atmosphere-page/#comment-525617 Mon, 16 May 2016 12:21:54 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?page_id=32705#comment-525617 Very useful and interesting, thank you.

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By: Arno Arrak https://wattsupwiththat.com/atmosphere-page/#comment-525616 Sat, 20 Jun 2015 18:48:31 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?page_id=32705#comment-525616 You have to get over drawing straight lines that run from 1979 to present on satellite graphs. It is a pretty stupid distortion that hides what is really going on.There are physically distinct units there that must not be lumped together and thus hide what the graph really shows. For your info, any attempt to fit a straight line there is only allowed if the variations are random which they are not. A wonderful way to understand the stupidity of this is to look at the two versions of UAH lower atmosphere anomalies included. The first version is taken from the web site of Roy Spencer. He uses a running, centered 13-month average which is an improvement but it still distorts the top peaks as you can see. The second picture is a red/blue warm/cool block diagram that brings the full picture into focus. What you see is a division of the temperature field into a cool stretch to the left of the super El Nino of 1998 and a warm stretch to its right. It should mmake you understand that the left and the right half do not belong together. The warm stretch, in red on the right, is easy to recognize as the hiatus/pause we are living through now. There was a short warming right after the super El Nino was finished that raised global temperature by a third of ac degree in only three years and then stopped. This is why the twenty-first century is warmer than the twentieth was, not because of some cockamamie greenhouse warming. The blue stretch on the left is also a hiatus but the blueness goes up and down because of a wave train of five El Nino peaks (little reds) and La Nina valleys (deep blues) that are superimposed upon it. That is informative but resolution is poor. To improve the resolution you should use the graph of the full data-set as Roy Spencer does but instead of a calculated curve like his take a transparent red magic marker and mark the trend with it by hand. Make it wide enough so it will cover the random variations in the data which are caused by the cloudiness variable. In my book “What Warming?” I show how the visibility of trends in the raw data (figure 3) is greatly improved by this technique (figure 7). If you are dealing with ENSO oscillations you can go one step further and mark the center point of a line connecting an El Nino peak with is neighboring La Nina valley. That is the global mean temperature at that point in time. If you do it to all El Nino – La Nina combinations these dots will line up and reveal global mean temperature trend. I did this with the ENSO wave train on the left side of the UAH graph from Roy Spencer and found that the dots lined up in a horizontal straight line. Diagnosis: no warming in the eighties and nineties. That means a hiatus. I discovered this in 2008, before the word hiatus for no warming was invented. This means that we have two hiatuses, not one. The graph of this hiatus in the eighties and nineties is found in figure 15 in my book. It has been sitting there since 2010, completely ignored by those big shots who call themselves climate scientists. Actually not completely because they did busy themselves over-writing that that section of the temperature curve with a fake warming called late twentieth century warming. That went over big with ground-based temperature curves but they could not control the satellites and that is why that hiatus is still there in Roy Spencer’s temperature curve. The fact that everybody has been sitting there and not seeing the hiatus tells me that those temperature “experts” do not know what they are doing. The fact that they keep drawing imaginary straight lines is just one symptom of incompetence. They need to go back to school and learn about real data analysis. As to the two hiatuses, the implications are tremendous. Together they have prevented warming for 80 percent of the satellite era. That prevented warming was greenhouse warming. The rest of the satellite era was not greenhouse warming either which means no greenhouse warming at all during the entire satellite era. I will let you guess what happened before that.

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By: Bill_W https://wattsupwiththat.com/atmosphere-page/#comment-525615 Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:10:21 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?page_id=32705#comment-525615 Just the facts,
I agree with the 1st poster that the first map (NAVGEM) is odd. For Aug. 3rd it has all kinds of black all over the US. Is half the country really having 105 degrees right now?

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By: justthefactswuwt https://wattsupwiththat.com/atmosphere-page/#comment-525614 Sun, 20 Jul 2014 04:10:31 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?page_id=32705#comment-525614 Barbee says: July 10, 2014 at 8:40 pm
Dear Anthony.
I built this reference page and am thus accountable for the accuracy of its content.
I have a question about this page-and its supposed accuracy.
I am not sure how one measures “supposed accuracy”, but all of the imagery is linked from reputable third party sources, was reviewed for “reasonable accuracy” prior to inclusion and, in the case of this page, has been viewed 69,309 times in the last 3 years, without any concerns about accuracy arising. The source of the image in question;
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/metoc/nogaps/gif_files/global_sfc_sst_0.gif
is US Navel Research Laboratory – Navy Operational Global Atmospheric Prediction System (NOGAPS):
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/nogaps_his.htm
NRL offers a number of products;
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/proddemo.html
I have never come across an error in any of them. NOGAPS is a model and prediction system, thus prone to the associated errors. However the image in question;
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/metoc/nogaps/gif_files/global_sfc_sst_0.gif
is a NowCast, not the zero at the end of the url, thus it is essentially a real time model, and even out to 24 NOGAPS has a pretty high forecast skill:
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/images/nogaps4.gif
However WUWT cannot vouch for the accuracy of the data within the Reference Pages, as WUWT is simply an aggregator. If a image or data source is shown to be inaccurate, it will be removed.
“It is now 10:20 PM here in Texas on the 10th of July 2014. It’s early Summer here in the N hemisphere… Yes, it is. 🙂
You have an image here on your page-a global image. I look at it-and I doubt that I can trust it.
It shows that at this very moment on this very day the the current temperature in New Zealand is somewhere between 100 and 105 degrees. OMG!!! That’s incredible….!!!! I think: NOT.
So I looked it up and independently verified that it is, in fact “Winter” in New Zealand and a quite mild 75 degrees. “F” …so no Bull Sh#t. What gives?”
The temperature is colorized…darker is hottest and New Zealand is BLACK almost totally BLACK-the hottest color possible. (57 degrees? Hottest possible?)

I don’t have ready access to the image from July 10th, but here is July 19th:
[caption id="" align="alignnone" width="581"] Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) Monterey Marine Meteorology Division – Click the pic to view at source[/caption]
I think what you are interpreting the be “BLACK almost totally BLACK” is probably several shades of blue from the colder end of the temperature scale, i.e.:
“While the far north has subtropical weather during summer, and inland alpine areas of the South Island can be as cold as -10°C (14°F) in winter, most of the country lies close to the coast, which means mild temperatures.
The average New Zealand temperature decreases as you travel south. January and February are the warmest months, and July is the coldest month of the year. In summer, the average maximum temperature ranges between 20-30ºC (70-90°F) and in winter between 10-15ºC (50-60°F).”
“Winter: June – August
Winter in New Zealand brings colder weather to much of the country, with snow in the south and rain in the north. You’ll need jeans, long-sleeved tops and coats in most places, and if you’re heading into the mountains thermals, gloves and thick sweaters are also a good idea.”
http://www.newzealand.com/us/feature/new-zealand-climate-and-weather/
If you look at the Andes in the image above they are a similar coloring as New Zealand and are certainly not 100 degree F at present.
You are probably seeing areas that fall within the 25 – 32 F dark blue temperature range, accompanied by numerous tight Isotherms reflecting the rapid transition from cold inland alpine areas to warmer air around the coasts.
Do I not understand ‘Winter” ? Is something wrong with me?
HELP!

Possibly a touch of color blindness, but NOGAPS color palette certainly could be better 🙂
Your readers want to trust you-your data’s accuracy reflects upon you.
Oh in case you have no idea what I’m referring to: that would be the 1st map on this page. The TOP one. The 1st one EVERYONE looks at the Highest priority, on the top of the column

You have the right instincts, don’t trust anything, be skeptical of everything and challenge what does not appear to be accurate.
Please educate my poor ignorant soul-LOL 🙂
Thanks
P.S. It matters that people like me understand and trust you.

I hope this helps to answer your questions. If there is any additional information that we can provide, please let us know.

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By: Barbee https://wattsupwiththat.com/atmosphere-page/#comment-525613 Fri, 11 Jul 2014 03:40:55 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?page_id=32705#comment-525613 Dear Anthony.
I have a question about this page-and its supposed accuracy. It is now 10:20 PM here in Texas on the 10th of July 2014. It’s early Summer here in the N hemisphere… Yes, it is. 🙂
You have an image here on your page-a global image. I look at it-and I doubt that I can trust it.
It shows that at this very moment on this very day the the current temperature in New Zealand is somewhere between 100 and 105 degrees. OMG!!! That’s incredible….!!!! I think: NOT.
So I looked it up and independently verified that it is, in fact “Winter” in New Zealand and a quite mild 75 degrees. “F” …so no Bull Sh#t. What gives?
Do I not understand ‘Winter” ? Is something wrong with me?
HELP!
Your readers want to trust you-your data’s accuracy reflects upon you.
Oh in case you have no idea what I’m referring to: that would be the 1st map on this page. The TOP one. The 1st one EVERYONE looks at the Highest priority, on the top of the column.
The temperature is colorized…darker is hottest and New Zealand is BLACK almost totally BLACK-the hottest color possible. (57 degrees? Hottest possible?)
Please educate my poor ignorant soul-LOL 🙂
Thanks
P.S. It matters that people like me understand and trust you.

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