A survey from April of this year has surfaced some intriguing shifts in American attitudes toward climate change, particularly regarding its causes. The survey, executed by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and funded by the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago, reveals a notable decrease in the number of Americans who attribute climate change primarily to human activities.
The survey’s findings are quite stark:
“Though three-quarters of Americans believe climate change is happening, only 49% say it’s mostly or entirely precipitated by human activity — an 11% drop since 2018.”
This decline suggests a growing skepticism or perhaps a more nuanced understanding of the factors contributing to climate change.
The change in belief is more pronounced among certain political demographics. The survey details,
“In 2018, 72% of Democrats said climate change is mostly or entirely a result of human activities; in 2023, that figure fell to 60%. For independents, the decline was even steeper: from 61% in 2018 to 42% in 2023.”
This could reflect a broader questioning of the narrative that has dominated climate change discussions for years.
When it comes to actions to reduce carbon footprints, there’s a mix of everyday conservation efforts and reluctance to adopt more significant changes. The survey notes,
“89% of Americans routinely turn off lights when not needed and 68% use energy-efficient appliances.”
However, the adoption of solar panels or electric vehicles remains low, with only 11% and 12% respectively taking these steps.
The survey also touches on the public’s view of renewable energy infrastructure, revealing a split opinion:
“56% support beefing up the nation’s power grid, but that number dips to 48% if the power lines would be built in their neighborhood.”
This highlights the challenge of translating general support for renewable energy into acceptance of its associated developments.
Regional differences in attitudes towards potential climate change impacts are also evident.
“People who live in the Southwest and on the West Coast are more likely than other Americans to say they’d consider moving to avoid extreme weather impacts. People in the Northeast are standing pat,”
indicating varying levels of concern or perceived threat from climate change across the country.
The survey’s results underscore a shift in the public’s perception of climate change, with a significant portion now looking at natural environmental changes as potential contributors. This evolving opinion landscape could have significant implications for future climate policies and the public discourse on environmental issues.
The detailed findings of the survey provide a window into the complex and changing views of Americans on climate change and are available for further review on the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago’s website.
“The survey’s findings are quite stark: ” …
to the doomers !
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Great news. Democrats coming to their senses!
I suspect more pointed questions would find even more skepticism. For example “beefing up” the grid does not refer to adding renewables, quite the contrary. Renewables mess up the grid.
Germany
Orange: Length annual power outages in minutes
Blue: Share of renewables
Doesn’t look like there’s a correlation between stability and renewables.
Several reasons that may not be true, friend. Definition, methodology, mitigations, compromised ethics, etc. Nevertheless,
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abj6734
The effect of renewable energy incorporation on power grid stability and resilience
I’m surprised they had any power cuts with all of the grid interconnectors they have
Try a graph of unreliables vs energy cost, or unreliables vs grid costs, or unreliables vs companies closing down in Germany.
Agreed Steve. This is like data from Kansas. Unlike Germany the US stands pretty much alone.
Heh, that’s a very misleading chart – you should have one showing the increased use of coal and gas during that same period that stabilised the German grid, despite the growth in renewables not because of it.
e.g. the US state of Texas is larger than the European country of Germany.
“Texas is about 268,820 square miles in size, while Germany covers around 137,988 square miles. So, Texas is almost twice as big as Germany.“
The thing you are deliberately ignoring, is that renewables as a percentage of Germany’s grid is an utterly meaningless number. Germany is connected to grids in all of it’s neighboring countries, and the number of inter-ties has been going up in recent years.
What is it with you alarmists and your inability to deal with the actual world?
Residential electricity prices have more than trippled in Germany since 2000.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1346301/electricity-price-development-households-germany/
Industry moving away, means there is not so much pressure on the electricity supply system
Green Economic Collapse: 1/3 Of Germany’s Automotive Suppliers Considering Moving Abroad (notrickszone.com)
MyUserName: Chart fails several logic tests, but the most basic:
Should I expect power outage duration to remain the same during the most rapid period of technological development in human history? Most of the other technology I see every day has improved dramatically.
it’s a 16 year chart.
Either they’re not, or there are massive problems with our elections. For all the “they’re coming to their senses” headlines I see, it appears that we’re in for more of the same country destroying policies for the foreseeable future. The government is still intent on destroying our energy infrastructure. And then we’re borrowing $1T just to pay the interest on our debt, and borrowing $1T to pay the rest of the bills, there’s no way out.
‘For all the “they’re coming to their senses” headlines I see, it appears that we’re in for more of the same country destroying policies for the foreseeable future.‘
I share your pessimism given the results of yesterday’s US elections. Granted, it was an ‘off year’ election, but it doesn’t appear that there was any negative reaction to what the Left has been up to over the past three years
it doesn’t appear that there was any negative reaction to what the Left has been up to
I think there is a negative reaction but they are completely unable (vs. unwilling) to question their preconceptions that the right is pure evil. So they keep voting the same because “it’s not as bad as the alternative”.
‘So they keep voting the same because “it’s not as bad as the alternative”.’
I don’t know who ‘they’ are, but they were motivated to show up. Those favoring the ‘alternative’, apparently less so.
The abortion issue is the driving force behind these losses for the GOP.
Abortion was the reason the Red Wave in 2022 turned into a Red Trickle.
If Republicans don’t come up with an exceptable answer to the Democrats on the abortion issue, then Republicans will lose 2024.
All our freedoms gone over a single issue, as it keeps destructive, authoritarian Democrats in power, and if they win, then they will do to us (those who challenge their power), what they have done to Trump. And who is to stop them?
“on exiting the Constitutional Convention in 1787, Benjamin Franklin was asked what sort of government the delegates had created. His answer: “A republic, if you can keep it.”
Are we going to lose it over abortion? Despite all the other issues? There is that possibility.
I guess we’ll know soon enough.
“All our freedoms gone over a single issue, as it keeps destructive, authoritarian Democrats in power, and if they win, then they will do to us (those who challenge their power), what they have done to Trump”
Couple of things. “
Stalin’s prosecutors had an enviable record for obtaining convictions. I guess that just means the affected defendants were simply guilty, right?
“ I guess that just means the affected defendants were simply guilty, right?”
I think even the most ardent Trump supporter(I hope so anyway) would not consider the judicial system in the US to be corrupt like the Russian one.
Parts of the U.S. judicial system are definitely corrupt. The U.S. Attorney General and the Director of the FBI are two examples.
Our hope is that not all of the judicial system has been compromised by the radical Obama/Biden Democrats.
Yes we would. The US judicial system might even be worse.
Well then you will be able to name times Biden behaved that way. Shall I list Trumps authoritarian actions?
I’m pleased you agree Trump should be held accountable if guilty. If it is any comfort I feel the same way about every politician.
JIm… Democrats are not communists. If you think they are then you clearly have no idea what a communist is.
Except, Trump is innocent and Biden is corrupt. I know exactly what a Communist is. Essentially every Democrat is one–so are you. Alas, I’m a sick puppy, and you want the complete destruction of the Jewish state. How sick is that?
“Except, Trump is innocent and Biden is corrupt.”
I find your comments re what I am supposed to have said about the Jewish state, not only deliberately wrong, but all morally repugnant.Have you no shame at all? Can you quote from any post where I said I want the destruction of the Jewish state. If not, I’ll expect an apology.
As for Trump being innocent…. let’s see what the courts decide. If you have been following the trial in NY, you will see there is little doubt he has deliberately inflated the values of his properties to make financial gain. That’s called fraud.
“I find your comments re what I am supposed to have said about the Jewish state, not only deliberately wrong, but all morally repugnant.Have you no shame at all? Can you quote from any post where I said I want the destruction of the Jewish state. If not, I’ll expect an apology.”
LOL. You support a group that’s clearly antisemitic. If I supported a group of NAZIs, you’d call me a NAZI. You are so full of it. I expect an apology for me having to waste time on your stupidity.
“. . . you will see there is little doubt he has deliberately inflated the values of his properties to make financial gain.”
Again you are full of it. There is no bank that’s upset. Everyone was paid everything and handsomely to boot. There isn’t any bank complaining. And Trump’s Florida’s property wasn’t overvalued. Empty lots nearby are going for 200 million dollars. Mar-a-Largo is worth at the minimum of 900 million and easily a billion dollars. You and your Communist anti-Trump, 18 million dollar judge are totally wrong.
Properties like Mar-a-Lago cannot be appraised because there are no comps. Comps are an absolute necessity for appraisal. Unique properties are valued purely by what they sell for.
Also, for that to stand, the banks would have had to accept an inflated value for the property. Do you think banks just take everyone’s word, especially with that sort of money involved?
Finally, who was the victim? Who was harmed by this alleged fraud?
“Shall I list Trumps authoritarian actions?”
Please do.
The biggest and most obvious example of Trump acting like an “authoritarian” was his failure/refusal to honour the constitution of the US, by refusing to stand down when he lost the election. This was despite there being no evidence of widespread fraud and his AG(William Barr), Christopher Krebs, the guy he put in charge of maintaining the integrity of the election, his daughter and numerous advisors telling him he lost fair and square. Could you get a finer example of an authoritarian.
I wondered what your definition of authoritarian was after you accused Trump of being one.
What you describe about Trump is a man who thought he was cheated out of the election. He went to bed election night ahead by about 600,000 votes in Pennsylvania and when he woke up, he had lost Pennsylvania. As one example of why he thought there might be cheating going on.
There were enough discrepancies in the election to cause anyone paying attention concerns about the integrity of the vote. I don’t say the election was stolen, I say the election could have been stolen. Trump feels a little more strongly about it and says it was stolen, and I believe he says he has proof. Time will tell.
But thinking the election was stolen from you is not authoritarian. He wanted his people to investigate the election, which is not authoriatarian or illegal, and he turned power over to the Democrats on the designated day, which is not authoritarian.
If Trump were an authoritarian, or a man with a dictatorial inclination, he would not have relinguished power, he would have declared Martial Law and locked all the Democrat up in jail.
“What you describe about Trump is a man who thought he was cheated out of the election. “
We know that it was Trumps plan all along to go down the “I’ve been robbed” path if he lost. Here is Steve Banon telling a group before the election that if Trump is losing on the night he is going to tell the world they stole it from him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxNoUnxN_cs&t=1s
So Trump never thought it was stolen. It was a plan hatched before the election to rob the American people of their right to chose who governs them.
That is anti democratic and anti American. And I would add traitorous. But it is most definitely authoritarian.
Could you get a finer example of an authoritarian.
Absolutely, and it’s telling that there is where you go. Did he step aside and let the Biden administration take over? Or did he fight it using the force of the government and prevent the transfer of power?
Yes, he questioned the election. Yes, he fought the results. You can even question his methods. But in the end, he stepped aside when the time came. That is not authoritarian by any stretch.
“Did he step aside and let the Biden administration take over? Or did he fight it using the force of the government and prevent the transfer of power?”
He tried to subvert the democratic process by inventing fake electors. You don’t think that is bad?
And he has never once done the manly thing and congratulated his opponent on their (Biden’s) win. Unlike Hillary who rang him that night.
“He tried to subvert the democratic process by inventing fake electors. You don’t think that is bad?”
Every Democrat who’s lost an election does the same thing. Go pedal your nonsense elsewhere.
““He tried to subvert the democratic process by inventing fake electors. You don’t think that is bad?”
Every Democrat who’s lost an election does the same thing. Go pedal your nonsense elsewhere.“
You are fast climbing the list for the person who says the most nonsensical things on this site. But I’ll give you a chance….Do you have an example of where a democrat lost an election then created a fake elector? Or is this just another of your make up BS then run away moments?
I guess it was option 2…. runaway and hide. What a lowlife you are, spreading misinformation and BS then scarpering.
I don’t spend all my time listening to your crap. The most recent was Hillary Clinton. Democrats wanted to electors to change their vote from Trump to Hillary. It’s standard practice to assemble electors that will vote for you. Check out Al Gore and John Kerry–both losers that didn’t think they lost.
Like Trump you are fake….That is nothing like a comparison. No one has ever done what Trump did. Of course people have electors ready… for when they win. But if they don’t, they are redundant. What Trump did was unconstitutional and illegal. Let’s hope he gets what’s coming to him.
“I guess it was option 2…. runaway and hide. What a lowlife you are, spreading misinformation and BS then scarpering.”
I was enjoying Veteran’s Day and watching my UW Huskies win. I’m sorry that I don’t care enough about you to respond immediately. By the way, I’m a low-life Veteran. Are you? Did you serve during the Vietnam War and get spit on by the likes of you? I remember while in uniform as an Aviation Officer Candidate, being treated to The Finger by low-life kids like you.
I thank people for thanking me for serving, but I sometimes wonder if they are really sincere. A lot of these people may have been spitting on us. I’m glad they finally grew up. I’m waiting for the event to happen to you.
“By the way, I’m a low-life Veteran….”
Wrong again. I have nothing but respect for the men and women who did what they were asked and went to that war, or any war. So no I doin’t consider anyone who fights for their country a lowlife.
I’ve been to Vietnam and know a bit about that war and it sounded horrific.
But…If you value veterans, then why would you support a man like Trump who was a draft dodger and has publicly denigrated the families of soldiers who have served and died. If you think Trump has any sense of value for the military then ask yourself this. Why is it he falls out with his top military people (Kelly. Milley). IN fact this is what Kelly had to say about him…
“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.
He tried to subvert the democratic process by inventing fake electors. You don’t think that is bad?
The question wasn’t asking for examples of him doing something bad, it was for examples of something authoritarian. Your example fails to demonstrate anything of the kind.
I absolutely believe Biden is more of an authoritarian than Trump. It’s demonstrable. I don’t believe Trump is authoritarian at all.
And, if Trump is found guilty of something, he should be held accountable. So far, I haven’t seen that he is guilty of any of the 91 charges the Biden adminsitration and cronies have filed against him.
The New York Attorney General’s fraud case against Trump should be thrown out of court in the near future. Assuming there is still justice in the United States.
https://fortune.com/2023/11/07/donald-trump-trial-judge-arthur-engoron-fight-ex-president-new-york-ag-letitia-james-fraud-witness-stand/
“I do not want to hear everything this witness has to say. He has a lot to say that has nothing to do with the case or the questions,” the judge said.”
Here is the “judge” in this case saying he doesn’t want to hear from the defendant. There is no jury, so the “judge” is the one deciding this matter, and he doesn’t want to allow the defendant to speak freely.
Mistrial !
Read the article. There is no victim here. Noone Trump did business with is complaining about how he did business.
This is all a pure political hit job on the part of radical Democrats trying to influence the next presidential election.
The more they attack Trump, the stronger he gets because his supporters know it is a political hit job.
“I do not want to hear everything this witness has to say. He has a lot to say that has nothing to do with the case or the questions,” the judge said.”
The key part of this statement from the judge is ” He has a lot to say that has nothing to do with the case or the questions,” Trump was grandstanding and not answering the questions being asked. It is unquestionably the judges job to keep things focussed.
“The key part of this statement from the judge is ” He has a lot to say that has nothing to do with the case or the questions,”
I can see where that would be key to an anti-Trumper like the judge and you.
But, the judge is preventing Trump from defending himself. The defendant, Trump, should be able to present his defense anyway he wants.
It doesn’t really matter though because the judge has already found Trump guilty, so Trump will appeal and then he will be rid of this extreme leftist judge, and maybe he can find someone in the Appeals Court who will go by the law.
This trial court judge has had his 15 minutes of fame. He seemed very eager to get it. He, and the New York Attorney General who seems very pleased at seeing the Trump family raked over the coals. A dispicable, dangerous woman who uses her position to play presidential politics.
Tom, I wonder if you could take a moment to list the ways the Biden is an authoritarian? I mean I get that he makes some tough decisions that people don’t like, but I’d be keen to know where he crosses in to authoritarian?
Ask me that question in the next Open Thread, Simon.
I’ll be happy to discuss the subject.
‘If Republicans don’t come up with an acceptable answer to the Democrats on the abortion issue, then Republicans will lose 2024.‘
That there’s a problem – John Adams correctly stated that ‘[o]ur Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.’
One thing that would help is for Republicans to acknowledge that SCOTUS correctly put abortion back to the States, hence stop yakking about Federal limits thereon.
The demographics for abortion, below, would indicate that it’s overwhelmingly resorted to by single women, hence the perceived need for an ‘out’ if /when the POS sperm donor walks out.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/01/11/what-the-data-says-about-abortion-in-the-u-s-2/
Since you also mentioned DJT, I think we need to get our heads around the idea that he will most likely be convicted in one of the Left’s kangaroo courts next year. Again, it all fits with what Adams said, but that’s a feature, not a bug, for the Democrats.
“Since you also mentioned DJT, I think we need to get our heads around the idea that he will most likely be convicted in one of the Left’s kangaroo courts”
He has already been found guilty of fraud in the current case so…. yes.
“be convicted in one of the Left’s kangaroo courts” …. Yes”
Thanks for confirming they are kangaroo courts.
We already knew that… seems you have finally woken up from your ignorant naivety.
Trump hasn’t been found guilty of anything in any court as of this moment.
I suspect you are counting on the New York sorry excuse for a judge eventually convicting Trump of fraud in New York, and I think that is a certainty, but that won’t be the end of the case by a longshot.
This judge has made a laughingstock out of himself in his eagerness to get Trump and his bias will cause the case to be thrown out.
The case should also be thrown out on the merits because there is no evidence Trump defrauded anyone. Nobody Trump did business with is complaining. The only ones complaining are radical Democrat politicians who are trying to win the 2024 presidential election for Democrats by trying to destroy Trump.
Just what you would expect from an authoritarian/communist goverment like the Biden administration.
“Trump hasn’t been found guilty of anything in any court as of this moment.”
Sorry Tom but he has. The judge in the NY case has already ruled that Trump committed fraud. The rest of the trial is about determining how much he is going to have to pay….https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-letitia-james-fraud-lawsuit-1569245a9284427117b8d3ba5da74249
“The case should also be thrown out on the merits because there is no evidence Trump defrauded anyone. “
Not true either. He defrauded the NY tax payers and the banks of about $250 million (still being determined).
Thanks for changing the spelling of acceptable for me. I didn’t notice the error until after I hit the button, and of course, there’s no edit button any more.
I think the Biden administration is going to do everything they can to convict Trump of something, but if we can get a fair appeals court, I think Trump will be exonneraed on all counts.
I see none of these cases entangling Trump in illegalities. Trump is not a dishonest man. He did try to find enough votes to change the outcome, but there’s no evidence he directed anyone to do anything illegal to accomplish that goal.
It’s not illegal to think you were cheated out of an election, and it’s not illegal to try to prove this to be the case. That’s all Trump did.
‘It’s not illegal to think you were cheated out of an election, and it’s not illegal to try to prove this to be the case. That’s all Trump did.‘
No, it shouldn’t be illegal, because it’s true. However, I don’t see the Federal courts either wanting and/or able to step in to fix this mess before the ‘24 elections.
This goes way back to the Carolene Products case, when SCOTUS took a knee to FDR’s New Deal.
“ Trump is not a dishonest man.”
I think you should frame that.
Well, the Democrats finally managed to get hold of his tax returns for all these years, and they couldn’t use any of the information in it against him.
That’s why you don’t hear about Trump’s taxes anymore from Democrats.
I think a dishonest man would be found out if all his taxes were made public.
Or…. there is so much more to be concerned about than his tax returns… like defrauding banks and insurance companies to the tune of 250mil….. Trying to subvert democracy by organising fake electors…. stealing and hiding state secret documents. Just saying.
He was the President. He can de-classify any document. Biden wasn’t at the time.
So if my house is worth $100,000, and I put it on the market for $120,000, I’m defrauding the banks? You’re full of it. Banks have a fiduciary responsibility to determine the correct value of various properties. If you’re stupid enough to buy my house at $120,000, that’s on you. Good luck getting a loan, however.
Just because I say it is worth $??? does not mean it is. Trump was inflating the values to gain financial advantage. That’s a crime, which is why he has already been found guilty. We are just working out through the trial how much he will pay.I personally hope it is a lot.
Then everyone who puts a house on the market is a criminal. Absolutely no one in New York has ever been prosecuted on the made-up charges against Trump–no one. Obviously you never have put a house on the market. You add additional value to leave room for bargaining. And it’s not criminal to knowingly over-value your home.
Your idiot judge and the idiot attorney general are clearly Trump haters–like you. The charges should have been dismissed in the first five seconds.
And if Mar-a-Lago is just worth 18 million dollars, then you are a conservative, and I’m a stupid Communist.
Voters in Ohio just voted to make abortion up to the moment of birth, a part of their state constitution.
Two-year olds and teenagers are pretty inconvenient at times, too.
Birth, which can be induced, represents a location change (out v in) more than a state change (cells vs human). I wonder what’s the real metric? Because yes mos humans gould not be dropped on Earth Bear Grillis style and survive for long.
Not exactly correct. The initiative has six separate conditions for when an abortion may be restricted by the state. If the prospective mother’s life or health is in danger, then the abortion can be performed at any time. Otherwise, an abortion can be prohibited after viability. Essentially, the same standard that SCOTUS established in Roe v. Wade. And which is overwhelmingly popular with voters, even in very red states like Ohio, and Kansas. Such citizen initiatives on abortion access are very likely in most states, because the extreme anti-abortion position is unpopular.
Unfortunately, energy supply has yet to become a central election issue. Would that it did.
Hopefully it doesn’t – the Left will turn out in droves to vote for more of the same, while the so-called Right stays home, as usual.
I try not to complain about taxes because spending is all debt now. Congress has started behaving like a greedy kid with their first credit card – both political parties have had legislative and presidential since the 80’s and neither has shown strength to say no.
‘…spending is all debt now.’
True, but government debt results either in future taxes and/or monetary inflation, which, of course, is effectively a tax.
Comparisons between covid policies revealed to some people what team they’d joined and what their team’s purpose actually was.
WE’RE WINNING!! The shift has begun, which is why the Climate Cry-babies are SO incensed! Fifty years of screeching at the public has begun to wear down their patience.
The economic and scientific futility of the Green Nude Eel is beginning to register with more and more of the public! Only the truly committed will stick with their delusions and self-hypnosis when reality keeps slapping them in the face! Our biggest battles may be yet before us, but the tide has turned and public skepticism will only grow as GangGreen becomes ever more histrionic in their ravings!
People don’t want EVs as their main vehicle.
Hybrids get roughly twice the gas mileage of the gas only cars. Plug-in hybrids for 2nd car grocery store & pick up the kid at school probably use close to zero gas.
Yes, a very practical transportation tool for those whose circumstances fit.
And of course, for those who can afford a 2nd vehicle at all, let alone a hybrid.
But hey, everybody is entitled to spend their own $$$$s on any legal product or service.
Steve — I’m unclear on your point, other than the trivially true one that an ICE power plant use more gas than an EV power plants. From an individual’s perspective, assuming away the EV or hybrid premium, the EV can even make sense for that individual. But across time and society, it’s a dog of a decision.
Plug in hybrid when the batteries aren’t charged = underpowered piece of shit that can’t get out of its own way.
Plus the usual big battery ev fire risk, particularly when charging.
No thanks.
What kind of hybrid do you recommend that I use when I am hauling tools and materials dozens of miles out on unpaved forest roads helping homeowners build their off-grid dreams? I believe that I will stick with my V8 powered 4WD SUV, thank you; but I may get a larger SUV or pickup to use for work while the mid-sized SUV becomes my hunting/fishing/camping/prospecting vehicle!
This highlights the challenge of translating general support for renewable energy into acceptance of its associated developments.
Which is it? Beefing up the grid, or adding renewables?
Of course, the Northeast is only going to get nicer if it warms up a degree or two. The desert would not.
They mistranslate the notion of “beefing up the nation’s power grid” as “support for wind and solar.”
Which means they are either being disingenuous with their “survey” question to hide what they are actually asking about, or they are simply making a false equivocation of one thing for another.
“56% support beefing up the nation’s power grid, but that number dips to 48% if the power lines would be built in their neighborhood.”
It drops to 0% if told how much it will raise their rates and add to taxes.
Polls like that are easily skewed depending on how the question is asked and the conditions implied.
too bad the poll didn’t ask those who believe in man made climate change how much they are willing to spend per month to mitigate climate change – the answer is not very much and certainly not collectively the trillions the alarmists, aka totalitarians, say needs to be spent
Bloomberg’s green-energy research team estimated it would cost $US200 Trillion to stop Global Warming by 2050.
There is only $US40 trillion in cash, checking, and savings in the world.
There are about 2 billion households in the world, so that is $US100,000 per household.
Ninety percent of the world’s households can’t afford anything additional so the households in developed nations will have to pay 10 times as much to cover it.
That means about $US 1 million per household in developed countries or about $US 33,000 per year for 30 years. The working people can’t afford anything near that.
The millionaires and billionaires have about $US208 billion. That would cover it, but they won’t give up their wealth.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-07-05/-200-trillion-is-needed-to-stop-global-warming-that-s-a-bargain#xj4y7vzkg
Of course, the Earth is still in a 2.55 million-year ice age named the Quaternary Glaciation, 20% of the land is frozen, and it snows ice crystals every year.
‘There is only $US40 trillion in cash, checking, and savings in the world.’
Irrelevant. Money, whether it’s a fixed commodity like gold or Shazamed out of thin air, serves as a medium of exchange. There is no requirement that every asset be backed by a fixed amount of money.
He/she didn’t say “money”. He/she said “cash, checking, and savings”. That is the total amount of what people can spend without going into debt on an individual basis. Since we are talking the aggregate here, that means how much everyone in the world can spend without borrowing, or in this case inflating the nominal value of the cash, checking, and savings. Anything above that $US40 trillion is imaginary and difficult to get someone to accept as payment.
I’m in complete agreement that eliminating fossil fuels, obtaining net zero, etc. is complete folly. But it’s folly for economic and scientific reasons, not because we don’t have enough ‘cash, checking, and savings’ on hand.
‘Zillow said the full U.S. housing stock is now worth $43.4 trillion…’
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-housing-market-now-valued-at-6-9-trillion-report-1031139879?op=1
Not possible, right?
Thanks scvblwxq.
Would you mind if I re-posted your comment to selected msm articles comments sections as required?
They have different beliefs in Panama…
“””An irate motorist has shot dead two environmental protesters blocking a road
the driver, who was caught in traffic, got out of his car and gunned down the demonstrators when they refused to move in Panama.”””
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12725473/Motorist-shoots-dead-two-environmental-protesters-blocking-road-Panama.html
Oh no!
Tragic as this is, now the activists will have George Floyd-style “martyrs” to venerate.
Everyone is sick to death of Environmental zealots. Let’s hope this catches on.
He only shot two and then only when they confronted him, the second guy apparently appeared surprised when he got shot even though there was a previous shooting. Shows the mind set of the JSO crowd.
70-year-old with gun, gets approached by rabid climate zealot trying to stop him clearing the road.
Disposes of immediate threat to self, as you would any other rabid animal that looked like it might attack.
Sounds like self-defence to me.
This could reflect a broader questioning of the narrative
I think the last few years have left a lot of people questioning the “official” narrative of a lot of things.
The U.N. has lost its way.
So many ways.
Was it ever on the right one?
TIP!
2023-10-TrueCostofEVs-BennettIsaac.pdf (texaspolicy.com)
Summary in NY Post
If a person thinks about this rationally, there is evidence that most people are unwilling to spend even a few bucks on climate change. To the extent that purchasing solar panels or an EV is a environmental decision it is an exceptionally expensive one and also produces absolutely no gain and may even do harm. Perfectly reasonable that few poeple outside the zealots are going to fall for this.
I wish it were possible to instill into people that making our energy system more expensive, giving commercial advantage to China, making our energy system less reliable, and making our mix of fuels actually less diverse by eliminating fossil fuels, is all counter-productive. It is just as irrational as would be spending a fortune on solar panels and batteries to go off grid.
Politicians would soon become more rational as well.
Politicians always follow the the votes. That’s their rationale. Leaders they are not.
Roof-top solar panels took off bigly in Australia in the 1990s not because of “climate action”, but rather because abundant sunshine could be easily and economically harnessed to heat household hot water tanks, and take the edge off power bills.
The bonus was that governments offered installation and grid feed-in subsidies on something people were going to do at their own cost anyway.
The smarter ordinary families get, the dumber their governments get.
We need to stop using CAGW language. Instead of agreeing that the climate has changed we must say yes we are warmer since the little ice age ended, it’s a good thing.
Yes, we always need the proper context.
This is great news. The WUWT fraternity should feel much encouraged that their efforts may well be gaining traction. Hopefully the trickle will soon become a flood.
What’s that saying about the madness of crowds? That end bit, something about returning to their senses, one by one?
It suggests that people across the political spectrum are getting better informed, presumably and hopefully by educating themselves. It also suggests that however loud the activists shout, more and more people shrug their shoulders.
The Climate Change Alarmists have been “crying wolf” for too long with nothing unprecedented ever happening and people are getting wise to it.
If you cry wolf and there is no wolf, people notice.
Lots of naive people out there. But good to see it probably is not a majority and that says a lot based on the fact that this crap is shoved down our collective throats daily.
Two root causes:
““In 2018, 72% of Democrats said climate change is mostly or entirely a result of human activities; in 2023, that figure fell to 60%. For independents, the decline was even steeper: from 61% in 2018 to 42% in 2023.””
One would never know the split was so nearly even by reading or viewing popuar media.
TIP …
… into the sea or insanity
This from a site called “The Travel”
17 USA Cities That Will Be Underwater By 2050 (thetravel.com)
“89% of Americans routinely turn off lights when not needed and 68% use energy-efficient appliances.”
I wonder if that should be “89% of Americans SAY THEY routinely turn off lights when not needed and 68% SAY THEY use energy-efficient appliances.”