Emergency in China as temperatures hit lowest levels ever

From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

By Paul Homewood

h/t Ian Magness

No sign of this news on the BBC!

China Cold Wave: China’s president Xi Jinping called for an “all-out” emergency response to the cold snap that began at the start of the week.

Temperatures in parts of China hit their lowest levels since records began, state broadcaster said. The provinces affected included Shanxi, Hebei and Liaoning as a cold wave gripped large swathes of the country.

In Heilongjiang’s Yichun, a record low of minus 47.9 C (minus 54.2 F) was recorded in January 1980. This was broken early this week, according to a meteorological forecaster from the area.

China’s president Xi Jinping called for an “all-out” emergency response to the cold snap that began at the start of the week. Snowfall and icy roads along with heavy fog caused multiple accidents on the roads as well.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/china-cold-wave-in-photos-emergency-in-china-as-temperatures-hit-lowest-levels-ever-101702811864294.html

But the useful idiots in the West still think that China will give up fossil fuels, and rely on wind and solar power to keep them warm!

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Tom Halla
December 18, 2023 6:05 pm

Just remember, global warming causes cold spells!

Scissor
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 18, 2023 6:30 pm

China needs to boost its CO2 emissions.

RickWill
Reply to  Scissor
December 18, 2023 7:05 pm

I certain it is.

China is the region always showing the highest atmospheric CO2 level and yet it is getting colder – hmm!

Bryan A
Reply to  RickWill
December 18, 2023 7:55 pm

Could be, at least partially, from all their associated soot. They don’t waste money on scrubbers if they don’t have to

GMan
Reply to  Bryan A
December 19, 2023 5:36 am

They will bypass all of their air quality equipment when they need to. The equipment is so poorly designed that most of the time it does not work. I have worked on several Chinese projects and know this first hand. The thing that most people that are not Chinese do not realize is they do not put as high a regard on life as other cultures.

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Bryan A
December 18, 2023 9:53 pm

Bryan

I am pretty sure you know nothing about Chinese air quality improvement programmes.

I was in Beijing a couple of weeks ago and it was cold, windy and clear as usual.

The article doesn’t mention the Yin and Yang of NH weather. There is a major push of warm air from the Caribbean to eastern Canada and at the same time the Arctic air has to move north to get out of the way. It is pushing well into China. Over the Pole. Ergo, Arctic weather in Shenyang.

Interestingly, the government of China has changed the rules about that can be burned in those northern areas. They were using a lot of coal in low-income farmers’ homes and banned it in favour of gas and electricity. Both are not available in quantity so they recently permitted the burning of cordwood for domestic heating. Fruit wood mostly – excellent material. This will require hardware changes as most stoves are hydronic heaters supplying hot water to radiators and are not designed to burn wood.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 19, 2023 6:08 am

I’ve never heard about clean air in Shanghai from all the expats I know.

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
December 19, 2023 9:11 am

My advice is do not see through the eyes of others nor hear through their ears.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 22, 2023 11:49 am

You must have been a horrible student in school.

CampsieFellow
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 19, 2023 3:11 am

I wonder why (to date) there are 7 negatives for this comment. If people think that there are factual errors in the comment let them say so. Let’s have rejections based on facts rather than on an anti-climate-alarmism narrative. Maybe what he says is wrong. Maybe it’s correct. I don’t know. But let’s hold all comments to the same standard.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  CampsieFellow
December 19, 2023 4:35 am

The Chinese have been making efforts to clean up their air.

I agree with you on the downvotes. Instead of downvoting, make a comment about why you disagree with the post. A downvote tells us nothing of substance.

Bryan A
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 18, 2023 10:04 pm

I know they would probably have the cleanest air in the world if they filtered their pollution like they do Internet access

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Bryan A
December 19, 2023 9:10 am

Of course I realize that few people here have ever been to China so they have zero experience of the remarkable progress that has been made in air quality. I’d say the worst excess of lying about Chinese air is the BBC which uses a technique similar to the “steam from a power plant with the setting sun behind it” level of perfidy. What they do is wait for mid-October what the crop stubble is (illegally) burned in Hebei then use a telephoto lens looking down a Beijing street and then tell horror stories about burning coal.

The sunless skies you may have seen in photos is caused by fly ash for the most part. That was years ago. The reason so many coal power plants are being built is to replace the oldest ones that are inefficient and don’t have modern flue gas treatment.

While there, I went to Hohhot on a train gliding along at 350 kph, smoother than a plane. I went to a dairy farm with 10,000 cows that makes methane from manure. That feeds a 2000 HP V-16 Deutz engine to generate electricity. When they set their mind to something they get on with it and that happened years ago with air quality.

The countries at present with terrible air problems are Bulgaria, Poland, especially in the south, and other Eastern European states. They don’t have the gumption and dedication to replace their antiquated domestic and industrial heating hardware.

I don’t care about downvotes. “Refute that which is false and vain.”

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 19, 2023 11:45 am

I suppose if we moved all our factories to Bulgaria and Poland, they too would be updating their power plants.

Bill Parsons
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 19, 2023 5:38 pm

“When they set their mind to something they get on with it…”

Yep. Every year the Harbin Ice and Snow Sculpture gets more spectacular.

May Contain Traces of Seafood
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 19, 2023 6:16 pm

I went to a dairy farm with 10,000 cows that makes methane from manure. That feeds a 2000 HP V-16 Deutz engine to generate electricity.

Okay, so to make sure I understand correctly:

2000HP is 1491.4KW
It takes 10000 cows to drive the generator.
So each cow produces about 149 W?

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  May Contain Traces of Seafood
December 20, 2023 10:16 pm

May contain:

I have no clear idea about how much methane goes into the local gas network and how much to power. It was not running when I was there.

Biogas is a big deal in China and there are many advanced systems for producing it. Other countries on the cutting edge are Poland and Switzerland. They made conference presentations. CAU in Beijing has at least 50 masters students studying biogas in the college of engineering. These days they do quite complicated things to maximize hydrogen or methane at different stages and temperatures.

BTW there is one dairy farm in China with 100,000 cows producing 4000 tons of manure a day. That is digested to methane and sent into the local grid. Of course a lot of fertilizer is produced as well. Waste not, want not.

Bryan A
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 19, 2023 6:56 pm

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Emissions from coal plants by country

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Number of coal plants by country

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rah
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 18, 2023 7:00 pm

“Just remember, global warming causes cold spells!”

And lots of snow!

Richard Page
Reply to  rah
December 18, 2023 7:41 pm

One area is Hebei province which was flooded earlier this year – those guys just can’t catch a break, or it’s something to do with the area which might be susceptible to cold weather as well as floods.

Duker
Reply to  Richard Page
December 18, 2023 8:24 pm

Hebei means ‘north river ‘

Richard Page
Reply to  Duker
December 19, 2023 7:13 am

If I remember from looking it up when the area was flooded, Hebei, Beijing and a couple of other provinces are near the confluence of several large rivers and, historically, very prone to flooding.

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Duker
December 18, 2023 9:58 pm

Bei means North. Jing means city. Nan means South. So He means River? Then there must be a Henan. O wait! There is!

Graemethecat
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 19, 2023 4:32 am

Bei Jing – North Capital

Nan Jing – Southern Capital

Dong Jing – Eastern Capital (Tokyo in Mandarin)

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Graemethecat
December 19, 2023 9:14 am

G the cat

Thanks for that. Quite correct.

Jingle bells – a capital song??

Redge
Reply to  rah
December 18, 2023 9:51 pm

And no snow

rah
Reply to  Redge
December 19, 2023 5:33 am

Ever moving goal posts.

bnice2000
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 18, 2023 8:20 pm

Will be interesting to see if all the NH cold shows up in UAH December data.

Been Warmish down here in NSW, Australia, but not unusually so.

Mike
Reply to  bnice2000
December 18, 2023 8:56 pm

Victoria continues to be cool

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 19, 2023 11:43 am

It causes brain damage.

Mr.
December 18, 2023 6:17 pm

So in these conditions, which many northern hemisphere countries experience, how well would these soon-to-be-mandatory electric heat pumps perform?

Bryan A
Reply to  Mr.
December 18, 2023 6:26 pm

Good question!

John Hultquist
Reply to  Mr.
December 18, 2023 7:09 pm

Mine would switch to electrical resistance heating, and the cost would spike.
I also have s wood stove. My lowest temp has been about -26°C {-15°F}.

AndyHce
Reply to  John Hultquist
December 18, 2023 7:40 pm

Enjoy it while you can. Before too long, visible smoke, or IR imaging, are likely to bring the police to your door for more than just lowering your social credit score.

Bryan A
Reply to  AndyHce
December 18, 2023 7:59 pm

The Thermostat Police

rah
Reply to  AndyHce
December 19, 2023 9:46 am

It was 19 deg. F at my central Indiana home at 07:00. Been burning in the fireplace insert for the last three days. Yesterday snow flurries were strong enough I could not see out across the field to the west. The snow didn’t stick for long, but long enough that my bird feeders got hit hard.

Bryan A
Reply to  John Hultquist
December 18, 2023 7:59 pm

That’s Bone Chilling cold.
Below -30 is Nard Freezing.
Below -40 is Mind Numbing.
Below -50 is Antarctic Summer

BCBill
Reply to  Bryan A
December 19, 2023 12:19 am

As a Canadian child they cancelled school at – 40 so we went tobogganing

Kpar
Reply to  BCBill
December 19, 2023 6:08 am

I have often wondered why Justin Castreau is so worried about Global Warming… in CANADA?

May Contain Traces of Seafood
Reply to  Kpar
December 19, 2023 6:19 pm

Warmth makes the face paint melt?

Bryan A
Reply to  Kpar
December 20, 2023 5:58 am

Not too long ago it was covered by a Mile Thick Ice Sheet

sturmudgeon
Reply to  BCBill
December 19, 2023 5:50 pm

Not for long. We had lots of times walking 3/4 mile to school in the minus F 20’s, with moccasins over a couple of pairs of socks, and scarves frosted over on our faces… and, of course, “longjohns” (thank goodness for them!

ethical voter
Reply to  John Hultquist
December 18, 2023 8:10 pm

When the grid crashes you will save heaps.

Mr.
Reply to  John Hultquist
December 18, 2023 9:04 pm

I had 3 x reverse-cycle split-system air conditioners that could warm up our 4,000 sq ft house from 0 C to about 18 C in about 2 hours each morning until the wood heater took over.

But I wouldn’t want to foot the electricity bill for running them the other 22 hours a day.
Especially if the outside temp went below double-digit C.

JamesB_684
Reply to  Mr.
December 19, 2023 7:01 am

My heat pump is turned off automatically below 35 F, and the natural gas fired furnace takes over. It’s a good combination in the relatively mild climate of the U.S. Pacific NW. Wasn’t cheap, but it works great.

Tony_G
Reply to  Mr.
December 19, 2023 8:37 am

how well would these soon-to-be-mandatory electric heat pumps perform?

I believe that a mini-split is a heat pump. I have one installed in an outside kitchen. The building is well-insulated and does well in high temperatures (holds 65-67F when it’s 95-100 outside)

This is the first winter with it. I am compiling a list of low temperatures outside vs inside to see how well it does in cold weather & plan to share that here early next year.

Mr.
Reply to  Tony_G
December 19, 2023 10:40 am

I look forward to your fundings Tony.

Our kids are all a-twitter about quitting their natural gas home heating system and replacing with a heat pump.

I’m urging caution on them.

Tony_G
Reply to  Mr.
December 19, 2023 12:50 pm

I’ll give you this much so far – I’ve had 2 days near 20F and in both cases the inside temp dropped to around 51F despite the 66F setting.

I’m going to get one set of data with it set on automatic, and one more with it set on high heat, for comparison. I’m willing to allow that automatic isn’t designed to keep up with below freezing temps.

Mr.
Reply to  Tony_G
December 19, 2023 5:44 pm

Thanks Tony.

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Mr.
December 19, 2023 9:16 am

Most are ok down to -25 C but the neighbours will complain. They are very noisy. For lower temperatures you need the Canadian tech which works to -40. Different working fluid.

Mr.
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 19, 2023 10:42 am

Thanks Crispin.
Good to know.

karlomonte
December 18, 2023 6:24 pm

So, all caused by CO2 and El Nino?

Mike
Reply to  karlomonte
December 18, 2023 9:00 pm

By definition. Everything is now caused (enhanced) by human co2 (AKA climate change) That must include all cold and all nice weather. CC does not take a holiday! 😀

Bryan A
December 18, 2023 6:25 pm

Do Wind and Solar even work at -50°F?

JohnC
Reply to  Bryan A
December 19, 2023 1:31 am

I suspect that wind speeds would be zero. Solar panels would probably not work at all or with poor efficiency, and latitude would have an impact on this as well.

general custer
December 18, 2023 6:33 pm

Big deal. It’s winter time.

Screenshot 2023-12-18 at 20-30-52 Ski Season.png
rah
Reply to  general custer
December 18, 2023 7:09 pm

Astronomical winter, or IOW the winter solstice does not come for another three days.

Countdown Timer – Countdown to Dec 21, 2023 10:27:21 pm in Muncie (timeanddate.com)

And, I am confident that as usual, we will see that the winter seasonal projections from NOAA are worthless POS!

Chris Hanley
December 18, 2023 6:50 pm

“XR co-founder who broke window at HS2 protest given suspended sentence”.
“Some of Australia’s strategically important coral islands at great risk of vanishing, study finds”.
“Failure of Cop28 on fossil fuel phase-out is ‘devastating’, say scientists”.
“I used to fly around the world in all-expenses-paid luxury – but I couldn’t face my conscience” (Carlton Reid) 😂.
“Weather tracker: Parts of Rhine closed to shipping as river levels rise”.
“Cop28 has finally named fossil fuels as the climate problem. But do leaders have the will to act?”.

They are some of the headings under “Climate crisis” in today’s Guardian UK and Australian editions but I can’t find any mention of a record cold emergency in China 🤔.

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Chris Hanley
December 18, 2023 10:06 pm

The UN is trying to get the climate catastrophe defined as a health problem so the WHO can order everyone to address it using the incoming dreadful new powers over governments that kick in the May 2024.

Plans include a vaccine passport, CO2 passport and a carbon allocation.

– Crispin actually in Great Falls Montana

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 19, 2023 6:11 am

WHO has no authority over the US.

Richard Page
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
December 19, 2023 7:16 am

WHO has no authority over anyone but that doesn’t seem to stop them.

Mr Ed
Reply to  Crispin in Val Quentin
December 19, 2023 9:55 am

“Crispin actually in Great Falls Montana”

I enjoyed your posts this morning.
My dad worked in the main office at the wire mill back in the
’50’s. GF has changed a lot since those days.

Fraizer
Reply to  Mr Ed
December 19, 2023 4:24 pm

“Crispin actually in Great Falls Montana”

Is that anywhere near Frostbite Falls?


sturmudgeon
Reply to  Fraizer
December 19, 2023 5:55 pm

NO, that’s Frostfright Balls.

Mr Ed
Reply to  Fraizer
December 20, 2023 7:22 am

Oof-Da dat’s over in Minnesnowda, dat be Rockie
and Bullwinkle’s hangout.

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Mr Ed
December 20, 2023 10:24 pm

Today we made it to Page Arizona. What a spectacular place. There is a 1 GW hydro installation here.

Still heading south. No snow at all since leaving Val Quentin. Everything looks like a cowboy movie.

A lot of southern Utah looks like Drumheller Alberta right down to the dinosaur fossils.

kwinterkorn
December 18, 2023 6:54 pm

How well does an EV run at these temperatures?

Richard M
Reply to  kwinterkorn
December 18, 2023 7:43 pm

Downhill on ice they are unstoppable.

Scissor
Reply to  Richard M
December 18, 2023 8:33 pm

Sad but true. A prototype Cybertruck is not so good off-road in snow.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Scissor
December 19, 2023 7:04 am

Take a look at the tires. Basically all-terrain tires like you get on a lawn mower. Only good in dry conditions with good traction, probably wouldn’t even work well on wet grass.

The heavier the vehicle the better the tires must be. Put 45″ narrow knobbies on the trucik and it would probably have handled the snow. But then you would lose all the aerodynamics and the braking would be crap because of the longer lever arm the tires would represent.

Greenies think you can get everything for nothing.

RickWill
December 18, 2023 6:58 pm

China hit their lowest levels since records began, state broadcaster said

Time for the fact checkers to step in.

Or maybe it IS climate change as opposed to global warming.

The question – Is this a sign of or climate change? It would be hard to pin on “global warming” – at least that is my conclusion.

bnice2000
Reply to  RickWill
December 18, 2023 8:23 pm

I want to see how they spin “human causation” on this record cold.. 😉

Where’s the AGW plonkers to support the AGW meme on this !!

Mike
Reply to  bnice2000
December 18, 2023 9:13 pm

I want to see how they spin “human causation” on this record cold.

”The very cold weather over China is undoubtedly caused by human co2 due to global weirding. Scientists are unsure of the exact mechanism but are certain (99% confidence) it could not possibly have happened if fossil fuel use had been stopped last year.
Experts say these strange phenomena (which are in part, probably caused by a disruption to the northern jet stream (98% confidence) – as shown in state-of-the-art attribution modelling, is only expected to continue in the future unless immediate steps are taken”.
More funding is needed for urgent further research.” – scientists say..

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  bnice2000
December 19, 2023 6:13 am

I’m sure Nick Stokes has an explanation.

bnice2000
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
December 19, 2023 10:22 am

NIck’s explanation would be twisted delusional fantasy.

That’s his M.O. !

Editor
Reply to  RickWill
December 18, 2023 8:54 pm

This is how they do a fact check:
The claim: Temperatures in China hit their lowest levels since records began.
The verdict: Mainly FALSE. The temperature in one location was lower than any temperature ever recorded in China’s history, but it is not a very long history and it is not clear whether this was a general low temperature across all of China, or whether (like the Medieval Warm Period or the Little Ice Age) temperatures hit their extremes in different places at different times. Unlike last year’s China-wide record high temperature reading at Jingzhupuzhen approved by two independent climate scientists at CRU, the claim by Mr Jinping [sic] that there is an all-out emergency appears not to be backed by opinions from respected climate scientists. So, while there is a single temperature reading that can be represented as supporting the claim, we rate it Mainly False.

Krishna Gans
Reply to  Mike Jonas
December 19, 2023 2:21 am

CRU and “independent” ?
Find the error 😀

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Mike Jonas
December 19, 2023 4:54 am

“or whether (like the Medieval Warm Period or the Little Ice Age) temperatures hit their extremes in different places at different times.”

I think this is always the case. The extreme weather, whether it is hot or cold extremes, travel around the globe from west to east with the jet streams.

In the current situation, the extreme cold will eventually travel around the world and will make the U.S. extremely cold.

Here’s a Nullschool picture of the situation. We can see why it is cold over China. The jet stream is bring cold arctic air into the region. This cold air won’t stay over China forever, it will move east with the jet streams, freezing folks as it progresses.

The cold air has “sagged” down over China at the moment pulling cold air away from all but the northern parts of the U.S. But that’s going to change.

So when people claim the Medieval Warm Period wasn’t global, I have to ask how could it not be global considering what we know about how the air masses move around the Earth now? What goes around, comes around, in the same year. If it is warm on on side of the northern hemisphere, then shortly it’s going to be warm on the other side, and the same goes for the cold.

It’s absurd to claim the Medieval Warm Period was regional.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/500hPa/overlay=temp/orthographic=118.65,47.10,264/loc=132.478,51.783

Smart Rock
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 19, 2023 10:48 am

Hint: If you click on the icon that looks like a 12V car battery on the “control” line, you get a calendar, so you can set the date, and then you can use the arrows to set the time. That way, your link is memorialized at the date and time. If you don’t, it will always update to “current”. Click on “Now” to go back to current. Earth is a great resource.

Earth screencap.jpg
Tom Abbott
Reply to  Smart Rock
December 19, 2023 1:03 pm

Thanks for the tips. Much appreciated.

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Mike Jonas
December 20, 2023 10:28 pm

Ha ha ha ha ha!!
“…respected climate scientists…”

What a maroon….
– Bugs Bunny

Peta of Newark
December 18, 2023 7:05 pm

Haha – the flip side of katabatic heating – they’ve sucked all the water out of their landscape.
i.e. In summer, that water would have kept them cool, in winter it would have kept them warm
And Holy Kow, see the Cyclonic High sitting north of Irkutsk = central pressure of 1060mB
(Turn that around – if a low pressure system with a negative anomaly of 50 and 60mB came rolling past your house, not only would The Media being doing their nutz and losing their heads, so would you)

It is actually very easy to see what’s happening there – a humongous anticyclone in the Bering Sea is pulling air off of northern China.
‘somebody’ has been letting large amounts of silt, sand, soil and sediment ‘fall’ into Sea of Okhotsk and the Bering just recently. Naughty naughty. Don’t let that happen again.

The air to power that thing has to come from somewhere but mostly its falling down off Mongolia and coming out of (effectively) the stratosphere. Neither places noted for their toasty warm climates, especially in winter

(Colours represent windspeeds, temps (in Fahrenheit this time) are in the small coloured circles)

China Cold.jpg
Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Peta of Newark
December 18, 2023 8:01 pm

‘It is actually very easy to see what’s happening there…’

Isn’t easy for me. You and Nick S. are competing for the worst graphic of the week award.

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Peta of Newark
December 20, 2023 10:31 pm

I recommend the website called “windy”. Superb graphics and lots of On/Off switches.

Steve Case
December 18, 2023 7:12 pm

Must be another artifact of increasing CO2. Well really, what else could it be? After all Dr. John Holdren more or less said so nearly ten years ago:

     “The odds are that what we can expect as a result of global
     warming is to see more of this pattern of extreme cold.”
                         Dr. John Holdren, The White House – 1/8/2014

Leo Smith
December 18, 2023 7:15 pm

Um BBC does have it, buried…

rhexenor
Reply to  Leo Smith
December 19, 2023 1:28 am

The link goes to an article from January this year.

Doud D
December 18, 2023 7:20 pm

It will soon be the 1970’s. And Global Cooling. ..caused by you know who

Richard Page
Reply to  Doud D
December 18, 2023 7:45 pm

Santa?

insufficientlysensitive
December 18, 2023 7:57 pm

Well, China is on the other side of the world, so while the Western hemisphere has hysterics about global warming, the excitement is reflected in reverse on the Eastern with a jolly cold snap. But the Chinese are very smart, they knew of this in advance and are building an endless supply of coal plants to keep temperatures balanced worldwide. That also explains why Michael Mann’s predicted uptick hasn’t happened – the Chinese have thermally prevented the average temps from getting out of hand. Peace on earth, brothers!

Bob
December 18, 2023 8:21 pm

China is glad they told Europe and North America to take a hike. The rest of the world is watching, we are looking like fools.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bob
December 19, 2023 4:59 am

Our leaders are looking like fools. That’s because they are fools. Just damn near every one of them.

Pat from Kerbob
December 18, 2023 10:50 pm

Last year we had the early cold here in canada, this year still nice, relatively. Weather is always interesting.

We had some low -30s in November leading to our lake in SW Sask have 2 feet of ice vs usual 10-12”, and it melted 2 weeks later than usual this spring as it was so thick

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
December 20, 2023 10:36 pm

Ditto at Val Quentin. Minus 40 once and -39 three times before Christmas and a late cold spring. Lac Ste Anne is frozen over but no snow. I saw the town towing fishing hut rentals onto the ice using a pickup truck on Sunday so it is pretty thick. The whole lake is like a skating rink. You can go 40km – it is completely clear.

JohnC
December 19, 2023 1:28 am

Meanwhile Scotlands climate is changing faster than expected.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67752167

Graemethecat
Reply to  JohnC
December 19, 2023 4:38 am

If the BBC reports it, it MUST be true.

Scotland has never had high winds, floods, or heatwaves in the past, of course.

JohnC
Reply to  Graemethecat
December 19, 2023 9:23 am

There’s an implied /sarc

Tom Abbott
Reply to  JohnC
December 19, 2023 5:00 am

I saw that headline. It made me laugh. 🙂 These people are so pathetic.

bnice2000
Reply to  JohnC
December 19, 2023 10:34 am

Of course you will change the local climate if you chop down all your trees…

…. and put up thousands of wind turbines sucking energy out of the wind and denuding the landscape..

Trees mitigate winds, floods and heatwaves.

Petit-Barde
December 19, 2023 1:49 am

Scientists say that all this climate armageddon is due to cats, dogs and humans who breathe too much.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Petit-Barde
December 19, 2023 5:01 am

Climate change alarmists should hold their breaths first.

Tony_G
December 19, 2023 7:31 am

Hottest temperatures on record in England: world news.
Coldest temperatures on record in China: media doesn’t care.

No bias.

ToldYouSo
December 19, 2023 7:34 am
DFJ150
December 19, 2023 7:58 am

If it’s hotter, colder, wetter, drier, windier, more calm, sunnier, cloudier, etc, it’s GLOBAL WARMING/CLIMATE CHANGE! End of argument, the science is settled. Now send all your money to the government so they can fix this ASAP.

wazz
December 19, 2023 9:31 am

And the fact that most of their weather station sites would be UHI affected – not mentioned on this page that I can see

Andy Pattullo
December 19, 2023 9:49 am

Events like this are unavoidable as the weather and climate have high variability and absolutely no respect for magical thinking on the part of corrupt academics, policy makers and bureaucrats. That said, we can either make these events far more damaging and hurtful to the most vulnerable by pretending we can control the weather through government fiat, or we can think critically and use our collective resources to build resilience and adaptability in our society so that, whatever comes weather-wise, we are prepared and can protect our most vulnerable. This will be even more critical to human survival when we inevitably slide back into the widespread glaciation that is the more normal state of the ice age we inhabit.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
December 19, 2023 11:07 am

Well said! Thank you!

ResourceGuy
December 19, 2023 10:19 am

The Chinese forecast was for a warmer winter. I wonder what they did to the forecast team.

wazz
Reply to  ResourceGuy
December 19, 2023 12:34 pm

The CCP = to the Australian BoM could not be as wrong and useless as our BoM.

Joseph Zorzin
December 19, 2023 11:42 am

All out emergency? Why? Are people freezing? Looks like they’re well dressed. Are their houses freezing? Everyone has to declare an emergency? It’s probably been this cold there countless times.

rah
December 19, 2023 1:46 pm

Well Europe got theirs, Russia and Siberia got theirs, and now China got theirs. Our turn here in the states next as the Arctic air sloshes around and Northern Hemisphere.

Edward Katz
December 19, 2023 2:20 pm

The joke here is that in Canada the winter has been milder than usual, and the alarmists have jumped on the fact to claim it’s a certain sign of a warming planet. Meanwhile, they carefully ignore the below-normal readings in Siberia and Manchuria where cities like Irkutsk and Harbin normally have climates almost exactly like Winnipeg’s. So if those locales are having such readings on the other side of the North Pole, don’t they balance out the warmer ones in North America or is this too inconvenient for the doom-and-gloom crowd to admit?

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  Edward Katz
December 20, 2023 10:42 pm

Your analysis is correct of course. Our side is having a brown Christmas, theirs, all icicles. Three weeks ago Beijing had a blasting, biting north wind. Dry of course. It gets little snow.

Fishlaw
December 19, 2023 5:26 pm

But they don’t say what the new record is.

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