Consumer Science & Analytics (CSA): (Via Google translate) Engineer Jean-Marc Jancovici, an expert on climate change, once again called for drastically limiting plane travel, and declared the need to establish a quota of 4 flights per person in a lifetime…
HERE and the CSA Institute have just carried out a survey among the French on a possible restriction of the use of airplanes to fight against global warming and to anticipate the depletion of resources. Questioned by the CSA institute, 64% of French people aged 18 and over say they are in favor of reducing their use of airplanes in the medium term for environmental reasons.
Philippine van TICHELEN, General Director of HERE. “These figures show a very clear majority in favor of a reduction in the use of the plane. Ecological awareness is obvious in a context where natural disasters worsened by global warming (extreme heatwaves, fires, etc.) themselves have repercussions on the vacation plans of the French in Greece and Italy in the very short term.”We once again find a higher score among those under 35 (48%)…and this rises to 59% of 18-24 year olds.
This study was conducted by the CSA Institute and carried out online, on July 18, 2023, with a representative sample of 1,010 French people aged 18 and over, constituted using the quota method.
HERE study: The French and the proposal for a quota of 4 flights per person in a lifetime
A CSA & HERE study
41% OF FRENCH IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL OF A QUOTA OF 4 FLIGHTS PER PERSON IN A LIFETIME, ADVANCED BY ENGINEER JEAN-MARC JANCOVICI
On May 30, engineer Jean-Marc Jancovici, an expert on climate change, once again called for drastically limiting plane travel, and declared the need to establish a quota of 4 flights per person in a lifetime. Numerous reactions followed, for and against this proposal.
While the carbon footprint of the aviation sector is regularly singled out in the fight against global warming, and the reduction in the use of aircraft is often cited as one of the measures having the greatest impact on on an individual scale, HERE and the CSA Institute wanted to take stock of the French’s relationship with airplanes. They have just carried out a survey among the French on a possible restriction of the use of airplanes to fight against global warming and to anticipate the depletion of resources.
A majority of French people ready to reduce their use of planes
Questioned by the CSA institute, 64% of French people aged 18 and over say they are in favor of reducing their use of airplanes in the medium term for environmental reasons (including 40% completely in favor). This share peaks at 72% if we focus on those under 35, and at 77% of French people taking a plane (17% of French people surveyed do not take a plane).
“ We are certainly declarative, these intentions must pass the test of facts declares Philippine van TICHELEN, General Director of HERE . But these figures show a very clear majority in favor of a reduction in the use of the plane. Ecological awareness is obvious, in a context where natural disasters worsened by global warming (extreme heatwaves, fires, etc.) themselves have repercussions on the vacation plans of the French in Greece and Italy in the very short term… Added to this is also the impact of inflation and the increase in the cost of air travel, which in the medium term is directing the French towards other modes of transport for their travel. »
In this sense, the proposal by engineer Jean-Marc JANCOVICI to limit each person to 4 plane journeys over a lifetime is rather well received since 41% of French people say they are in favor.
We once again find a higher score among those under 35 (48%).
“While the 18-35 year old period is often a period conducive to discoveries, to first initiatory journeys, this age group turns out to be the quickest to engage in a very reasoned use of the plane: close to the half of them are in favor of JM Jancovici’s proposal, and this rises to 59% of 18-24 year olds , specifies Philippine van TICHELEN. »
Conversely, Ile-de-France residents are less favourable: only 33% (and 43% would not be at all favourable). “A surprising figure, which could be explained by the fact that Ile-de-France residents are more often required to take the plane for their professional trips, and therefore that the remaining share for their personal trips on the quota of 4 flights per life per person would be even more reduced, argues Philippine van TICHELEN. »
The top 4 destinations in case of air flight quotas
If this measure were adopted, the French would mainly turn to 4 countries on 3 different continents: the United States (31%), Canada (14%), Japan (13%) and Australia (11%).
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In terms of organization, travelers would spread their 4 flights over a fairly concentrated period of around 5 years for 24% of them, 40% over a period of 10/15 years , and 28% over a period of 20/ 30 years. Logically, those aged 65 and over would organize their flights in a more concentrated manner over 5 years (41%).
This study was conducted by the CSA Institute and carried out online, on July 18, 2023, with a representative sample of 1,010 French people aged 18 and over, constituted using the quota method.
Press contact: Philippine van Tichelen / 06 79 86 84 93
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CSA x HERE study
Consumer Science & Analytics (CSA): (Via Google translate) Engineer Jean-Marc Jancovici, an expert on climate change, once again called for drastically limiting plane travel, and declared the need to establish a quota of 4 flights per person in a lifetime…
HERE and the CSA Institute have just carried out a survey among the French on a possible restriction of the use of airplanes to fight against global warming and to anticipate the depletion of resources. Questioned by the CSA institute, 64% of French people aged 18 and over say they are in favor of reducing their use of airplanes in the medium term for environmental reasons.
Philippine van TICHELEN, General Director of HERE. “These figures show a very clear majority in favor of a reduction in the use of the plane. Ecological awareness is obvious in a context where natural disasters worsened by global warming (extreme heatwaves, fires, etc.) themselves have repercussions on the vacation plans of the French in Greece and Italy in the very short term.”
We once again find a higher score among those under 35 (48%)…and this rises to 59% of 18-24 year olds.
This study was conducted by the CSA Institute and carried out online, on July 18, 2023, with a representative sample of 1,010 French people aged 18 and over, constituted using the quota method.
Excellent! The French would be doing the rest of the world a big favor by staying home.
I’m old enough to remember when the French didn’t take showers or bath effectively. I think now they’re fine, in fact they are a great asset when dining in a French restaurant.
Sounds like the French have 41% of their population willing to voluntarily never fly again … Anywhere!
They “vote” to say they want to.
BUT THEY WON’T !! (especially not the climate glitterati.)
It is called “virtue-seeking”
It is certainly one way to end all those useless Conference Parties
NO!
Those people will have, of course, a special statute of passes and exemptions!
We have good high speed railways. Many people never fly!
That’s an incredibly stupid thing to write when you consider how many jobs in France depend on the military and civilian aerospace programs.
Are you seriously suggesting we should bankrupt Airbus (post the A380 commercial disaster), then bankrupt companies like Rolls-Royce who make the now pretty efficient engines?
Where will all the unemployed from the airline transport sector find work?
Here we have yet another example (a la Germany), of proposed massive self-harming.
Is this the way the Chicoms have found to destroy our excellent Aerospace industry?
Might still be true? Paris seemed very old and small and was not designed for every resident to expect their own shower room. I don’t know how they’d fix buildings without the required infrastructure.
And I’m old enough to remember that Club Méditerranée SA was a French invention… Promoting afordable holyday trips to such far away palces as Indonesia, the Phillippines, etc.
I’m old enough to remember when the gents toilets in French camping sites were just a hole in the ground.
They may have moved on a bit but that usually doesn’t extend to buying toilet seats.
I was a bit surprised to find holes in the ground – officially Turkish toilets I believe – at a recently built autoroute rest area. I can understand why as all it takes to clean them is a powerful hose.
Maybe that’s why most perfume manufacturers are based in France.
Only a national referendum, where every citizen can vote, is truly indicative of a nations mood – a snapshot, often biased poll will always give the result the pollsters and involved parties want
French deep state/pollsters are panicking as they want a law to censor climate news. Which would never happen if that poll was possibly real.
It’s as credible as Biden urinals based victory.
For seven years, many decades ago, I would have been happy to be able to cut back to 2 flights a week.
Regards,
Bob
Let’s give Jean-Marc an extra 1/2 flight and eject him well before landing.
Maybe the surveys were paid for by a silent partner, that happens to run a railway or bus company…
How is train travel more efficient if it costs more and uses up more time? I know it’s not 100% true all the time, but in a competitive, commodity market, the pricing is going to be a reflection of the resources used, and so train travel has higher costs than air travel.
The propagandists only focus on the amount of fossil fuel used but don’t look at the big picture, the full picture of the facilities and maintenance which also end up having a carbon footprint – which is apparently critically important to some gullible people, but I digress…
Once THEY are done with shaming the type and size of your vehicle and the mode of vacation travel, they’ll come for your home’s size, and mode of comfort, the fabric of your clothes, probably even shame your choice of shows you watch based on the vehicle use depicted within. We’re supposed to be living in a free society but soon we’ll be envying the peons in the Empire where they could do whatever they liked as long as they burn a pinch of incense for the emperor.
” ….. run a railway or bus company …”
Or maybe owns passenger ships.
We can start by restricting all the elite who attend COP conferences to four.
Oh darn, they’ve all already met their quota. No more COPs! Perhaps that will make our liberty a bit safer!
I think they can have their COPS but must all attend via Zoom, so they can WFH as they demanded every else did/does. As there are public funds used to pay for the COP jamborees we should have a say and introduce some austerity in line with the austerity they want the small people to have. They will not go to COP, and they will be happy.
And…all the food must be vegan, whether they attend or via Zoom.
If they attend via Zoom, their connections MUST be powered by generators attached to exercise bikes. So long as they pedal they can participate.
the food should be insects! to help “save the planet”
maybe chocolate covered ants- yummy!
There are over 12,000 types of ants in the world so endless variety of flavours 🙂
I think ants was the specialty of E.O. Wilson. Because he understood ants, he thought that made him a climate scientist. Here in Wokeachusetts there is a movement to stop all tree cutting and Wilson signed on to that to help “save the planet” – so the enviros were thrilled because he was famous. OK, he knew ants- so what?
But what about the hookers? Doesn’t anyone care about the hookers?
Sod the planet … it’s doing fine;
We’ve saved the whales, the penguins & polar bears,
lets start a campaign to ‘Save the Hookers’
What makes you think these restrictions are going to apply to them.
None of the other restrictions have.
Defund the COPs!!!
I say ban all private jets first – the elites must shoulder their own climate fantasies first
Is there a distance limit?
This could revive passenger shipping, presumably by sail. French vacations would have to get even longer.
Do Zeppelins count?
Only Led ones.
Go to your room!
The Trip would be the Destination. 1/2 way across the Atlantic then turn around and return home.
French workers get five weeks off per year, plus 11 holidays. SS France crossed the Atlantic in five days and nights, so ten days travel still leaves more than three weeks in the US or Canada.
However to visit Australia, they’ll need more vacation time.
Or if France be replaced by a windjammer.
Viking Long Ships with 250 oars Port and 250 Starboard
Five times normal longship length, plus more French now than Norse 1000 years ago wanting to cross the Atlantic.
Row well and live, forty-one.
France needs to restrict the sales of champagne and cognac because they’re scrambling the common sense of too much of its population.
Climate-Smart Champagne
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-18206-9_14
Champagne gives off carbon dioxide after you pop the cork. So no more champagne. No more beer or soda pop, either. Or bread. Bread is a BIG enviro-sin!
Logs should NOT be allowed to rot in the forest, nor should termites be allowed to eat them. We’re talking BIG CO2 emitters.
No one should be allowed to eat beans. Cows and horses and buffalos should be BANNED!
Gee, this list is getting kinda long. It looks like life itself is a sin.
Only four flights in a lifetime eh? That is going to be a bit restrictive if you are a military pilot protecting the nation. I imagine being an airline pilot is going to be difficult as well with only four flights allowed.
It’s also quite difficult to train a pilot, especially military pilots in four flights.
Not to mention flight instructors–which for some reason I didn’t, and I was one once.
In sure there will be exceptions, especially for people who fly on private jets to climate conferences.
It’s not about the climate, it’s about control. It’s always been about control.
There you have it. It’s not really about the climate, is it?
It never was.
Agreed.
Near majority of French public declares:
“Stop the world. I want to get off!”
I don’t think the French should ever fly, that would make more room for the rest of us. I also think they should give up driving. While they are at it give up their auto and airplane manufacturing. All shipping and boating should also be stopped. Have a good life I am pulling for you.
Zero sum? Volume up is price down sounds like a better model.
I can’t believe the poll result. i don’t fly now, but there was a time. I think this is where the new world order loses Delta, Disney and middle America.
Also – do 3rd world travelers get a pass? I mean seems unfair that people from Splatsistan should never get a generation of free flying.
How come, that all I see when it comes to this survey, is the psychology litterature made over the last decade or so on how children and young adults can foster climate change behaviour among their parents. Perhaps I don´t understand the term expert(r)us or is it children(r)us, listen, we are the experts.
The most troubling result of the survey is that if flight quotas became real, that, USofA is the top destination. Damm “sometimes” it´s hard not be a member of the experts(inCC-R)us “intellectual-elite-club”.
Our French chums can be strange, sometimes. (As can we all.)
But I call bullshit on this “survey”.
I do not believe the “results” for a minute. Absolute nonsense on stilts.
I don’t remember everything I learned about public opinion surveys, many years ago in my college social stats class, but I’m fairly sure there are serious validity problems with online surveys. Someone here will correct me if I’m wrong.
Speaking as someone with some prior experience with public surveying, all online surveys are entirely invalid. The response group is NOT random.
Quite so. It is a self-selecting group of people who have nothing better to do, like those who spend their lives on social media, are likely to be young (France has a 26% unemployment rate in the under 25s) and/or are already worshippers of Mother Earth.
Martin you are right to call BS on this supposed survey. Let me formulate the questions and I can produce a majority of responses to support any insane proposition whatever. Let me select the target group and I can produce unanimous support for said insane proposition.
We’ve already seen this sort of fabrication on a large scale. Remember the bitch from hell Naomi Oreskes? Or the insane Australian John Cook of Queensland University who fabricated the 97% claim of all scientific papers supporting AGW? What all these people did was simply perform statisical trickery to produce the results they wanted.
In undergraduate physics or chemistry class it was called “cheating” or “cooking the result”.
Well, almost all of these surveys and polls are designed to achieve a predetermined result, so of course it is BS. Still, it if fun to think of the French staying home and never inflicting themselves on the rest of the world.
Kiss goodbye to the Olympics, every world cup in every sport, the Flying Doctor service, …..
It would be interesting to see how the survey was framed. Sir Humphrey explained how framing worked.
They’ll simply have to extend High Speed ELECTRIC Rail to every country that wishes to participate in or host the games and have the rail heads terminate at sea ports. Then convert ocean travel to Viking long ships and have all the athletes/travelers man the oars. Tall Masted ships with Yards of cloth are also an option. Of course they will need to leave their home nations at least a month prior to the beginning of the games…AND hope that Mann has lived up to his apparent promise of being able to always provide favorable weather any time of year simply by not emitting CO2 during energy production
That 40+%, must be the percentage of the population who would never fly anyway, so they are not doing themselves any damage. It’s easy to vote against something when you are not going to be affected by it.
“I never did it so it doesn’t affect me”.
Seems like a difficult position to defend. non-participant side effects of the European/Asian World Wars would probably be a great source for examples – Palestine?
The French seem more resigned/accepting of doing things for the climate, even if they don’t really like it. I heard mais c’est pour le climat or similar quite a lot while I was living in rural France
“Engineer Jean-Marc Jancovici, an expert on climate change…”
He cannot be an engineer and an ‘expert’ on climate change at the same time, as the latter is doesn’t exist or make sense.
I was about to ask what made him a “climate expert” ?
Seems to have very little “climate” education. Maybe a degree in Environmental non-Science..???
I guess a “climate expert” is someone that makes his income by sucking up to the climate agenda.
For the most part, all it takes to be a climate expert, is for one to agree with the positions the politicians want you to take.
Expert = drip under pressure.
“Janco” is our more famous toutologue = everything-ologist.
What better example of massive brainwashing! Surely 41% of French people are under 35 years of age. Go ahead, do it and stay home riding French horses so the rest of the world won’t have to see so many stupid people out there.
Surely Biden won the popular vote by a lot, right?
“These figures show a very clear majority in favor of a reduction in the use of the plane. ”
No the figures show that half of 18 to 24yr olds take up to 20yrs to grow up and transcend their suppressed education.
How much you want to bet that this limit will never apply to those who consider themselves our masters.
Most of western Europe has an excellent high-speed rail network, and motorways, so most domestic travel can be conveniently undertaken on the ground.
The survey seems to be very much saying that the respondents want to have 1 trip to each of 4 main destinations.
When it’s all said and done, how many of us have had more overseas trips than that?
Apart for a boat trip from the UK to Australia when I was very young, I have only ever been on one international trip, to France…
And have no intention of going on another.
Flights within Australia… Hobart, Adelaide, Perth, Brisbane etc.. ..
I’ll fly whenever I darn well want to !!
France is 2/3 the land area of NSW, and has an excellent high speed train network.
The other western European countries are even smaller. It’s quicker and easier to travel on the Eurail network than to fly in most cases.
France is also quite central for trsin trips or driving to other countries in Europe.
If air travel is only to exotic overseas locations, it’s easy to see why most of the respondents limited themselves to 4 big trips.
Australia, the USA and Canada are a totally different arrangement.
Even the UK would probably have different responses, with a lot of people apparently flying to Spain or Greece for holidays.
Re country sizes, good luck travelling around Oz without internal flights
Does the 4 flight limit include internal flights or is the assumption when answering the survey that the limit is for international travel and you can fly as much as you like once abroad?
Governments don’t seem to mind carbon (dioxide) ‘pollution’ if it is created overseas so the limit may only be local flights
How about Canada and Alaska?
One trip each to four main destinations is eight flights in a lifetime, counting round trips. That means one flight to the Caribbean and back, plus one African safari and back, in a lifetime, is all they’d allow. Want to go anywhere else? Tough luck, unless it’s close to home.
The “flight” seems to include multiple legs and extended stopovers, One has to interpret these things in the most advantageous way.
One has to interpret these things in the most advantageous way.
Even the most “advantageous” interpretation is an insane amount of government control over travel.
Then shut down Airbus production and jobs.
When it’s all said and done, how many of us have had more overseas trips than that?
So that makes LIMITING the number of flights (in a lifetime) ok? I don’t follow that reasoning.
Of course not.
The reasoning seems to be that one can drive, catch a train or ship to all the important places – Swiss Alps, Riviera, Bordeaux, Aegean islands, so who would ever want more than 4 trips to those less enlightened areas?
who would ever want more than 4 trips to those less enlightened areas?
Does it matter? It’s still government control over freedom to travel.
Yes, we’re not stupid, we can see the “reasoning” used to make this palatable. I don’t get what point you’re trying to make. The “reasoning” is absurd.
In a country where air travel is uncommon, and they don’t think about it much, people are more likely to agree to the proposition that you don’t need more big overseas trips than they’re likely to make themselves.
Mais, oui.
That is just insane. As a young person, I want nothing but to experience everything the world has to offer. We have the beautiful gift of life that is all too short. Don’t they feel the same way?
A few years ago I would have found this sort of a study and the response to limiting freedoms to be beyond the pale.
Now I not only think it is very possible that so many people would vote for such a drastic limitation on their freedoms – especially young people.
It is unsettling that people (even the French) are so willing to take away freedoms from their fellow people when the Global Climate Change theory is so unproven and so questionable.
The question that needs to be asked is the following: If the Global Warming Crisis is so important to so many people and such a crisis, why not do the following:
I could list more, but these would at least provide a basis for true discussion.
Feels like an appeal to resentment for people who resent other people’s apparent ability to afford flight.
Is this a one-way flight, or a two-way flight?
What if it is one flight, that has multiple legs?
That seems to be the case. Paris -> New York -> Los Angeles -> San Francisco -> Miami -> Paris is one flight
Like a Centipede
In response to the CSA research poll numbers favoring flight “restrictions” as discussed in the above article, the souls of some 20,000 WWII US soldiers represented by graves in just the Normandy American Cemetery and the Lorraine American Cemetery, both in France, are crying out for the principle of freedom from tyranny they fought so selflessly and valiantly to preserve.
“…they fought so selflessly and valiantly to preserve.”
Yes, eventually..,
?
He’s upset that we didn’t join the war effort on day one.
I intentionally did not mention the additional US soldiers (AEF) that fought and died in France during WWI to help expel the Kaiser’s troops and his want to impose tyranny on French citizens.
Perhaps, by using the word “eventually”, Disputin thinks the US should have been fighting France’s wars since, oh, 1776?
Great, the people of a country you can literally drive from any point to any other point in less than 12 hours want to restrict everyone else’s ability to travel. I’ve heard the French have huge egos, but this is “nuts.”
Off Topic – We just got back inside from viewing the International Space Station fly over Milwaukee.
Hmmm this page doesn’t agree with what I just saw.
This page does agree.
I can change the minds of a majority of young French people with one sentence: This means no more European tours by Taylor Swift.
What French eco-fascists think plus $5 still won’t get you anything at Starbucks.
The text of the article says the French people favor reducing their use of airplanes. It does not say they agreed with 4 per lifetime. What was the exact wording of the poll?
“64% of French people aged 18 and over say they are in favor of reducing their use of airplanes in the medium term for environmental reasons”
Yuh, let’s see if they do what they say.
Meanwhile, 4 of my wife’s relatives stopped by. They started whining about the climate. I expressed the fact that I’m now a climate skeptic- not that I think it’s absolutely wrong- but that “the science” doesn’t yet have all the answers. Then, they ganged up on me- implying only a total moron would be a climate skeptic. After they verbally assaulted me, I kicked them out of the house. I wouldn’t have minded if they simply said they believe in “the emergency” but ganging up on this hot tempered Italian is going to far. First time I’ve ever been confronted like that, in person, in my home! Crazy, crazy, crazy climatistas.
Oh, and they expressed great love for Greta Thunberg! “She’s helping to save the planet”.
As long as there are no exceptions for the elite and ruling class. No buying spare flights from the poor.
1st class/luxury flights should be banned. Politicians and especially Climate Scientists should set an example by limiting themselves to 2 flights per lifetime.
It feels like I went to bed one night when the world was normal. Then i woke up in a looney bin… run by the looneys. Anyone else have that feeling?
Silly stuff.
Anyway, “TheClimate”™ won’t notice.
So 41% of the French population are totally-ignorant of the facts about so-called global warming. Surely so many cannot believe the Green nonsense about carbon dioxide?
Especially when France is one of the few countries in the world where electricity is 3/4 nuclear.
So much for CO2, but they still insist in believing the propaganda.
EVERYWHERE some sort of newspeak dictionary has popped up.
Sustainability, Ecology, – even in a place that cuts my hair!
If you become another person by changing gender, do you get another 4 flights?
I’m not a statistician but having read a fair bit of Kahneman and Tverskey, to me all I see is a glaring violation of the ‘law of small numbers’. A random sample of just on 1000 is inherently misleading per se. So they apply a method prone to selection bias instead? Hmm, this from a self styled climate expert? My initial thought was it’s cobblers and the more I read merely confirmed that.
In climate science, any method that yields the correct answer, is by definition a legitimate method.
If 48% believe that air travel should be limited to 4 trips per lifetime, what is stopping them from acting on their beliefs?
Perhaps the real answer is that 48% believe that other people should be limited to 4 trips per life time. Like John Kerry, their time and mission is too valuable to be restricted to 4 trips per lifetime.
a quota of 4 flights per person in a lifetime…
John Kerry, Bill Gates, Leonardo DiCaprio will soon use up that allocation. Or do they get exemptions for being very important people who need to travel around the world attending climate conferences?
And how will the French Rugby team get to play abroad?
And no more flights for you M. Macron after you’ve had your four.
64% of French people aged 18 and over say they are in favor of reducing their use of airplanes in the medium term for environmental reasons.
I wonder how many of them will actually do it. Simple way of finding out: if French airports become less busy we’ll know they mean what they are reported to say.
Surely a bullshit poll!
They’ll all just hop across the border to Holland Germany Spain Italy to fly from there or Euro Star to London and fly from there
The French typically holiday within France or in camper vans in Europe. People are always for banning things which won’t inconvenience them.
Only a national referendum, where every citizen can vote, is truly indicative of a nations mood – a snapshot, often biased poll will always give the result the pollsters and involved parties want
So, John Kerry really is French?
Speaking of which, I’d
supportenjoy making some very harsh examples out of the biggest hypocrites. Kerry, Gore, Greta (especially because of her virtue signaling stunts) and actual world leaders backing climate hysteria all at the top of the list.This is beyond absurd. If they want to limit their travel, go right ahead, but they need to stop trying to monitor and restrict other people’s behavior.
How many in the poll were government railway employees and their family members?
64% of French people aged 18 and over say they are in favor of reducing their use of airplanes
So reduce your use of airplanes.
It’s amazing to me how many people think something should be done, but don’t choose to do it unless it’s mandated by law.
Also, does anyone realistically believe that there won’t be all sorts of exceptions for government officials and the “elites”? Also, it wouldn’t surprise me they work in some sort of “flight offset” system.
Let me know when they vote to shutter Airbus production.
The late French President Charles de Gaulle once remarked “Les Francais sont des veaux”, translated as “French people are like calves” (implying that they follow the herd to the slaughter).
In their defense, France does have an excellent network of high-speed trains, that enable a French person to travel between major cities in France in two to four hours, where a plane doesn’t save much time. There is also a good train network to neighboring countries such as Germany, Belgium, and the Netherlands.
Train travel isn’t as practical in a larger country such as the United States, where cities can be thousands, instead of hundreds of miles apart.
Also, contrary to our genius president who takes credit for building a railroad across the Indian Ocean, trains don’t swim very well. Europeans who want to travel to the Americas will either have to use one of their four lifetime plane trips, or else sail like the 16th century explorers and Greta Thunberg. The history books tend to omit the sailing ships that ended up on the bottom of the ocean, with one Titanic exception.
So, if my wife and I were to fly from the US to Paris (1 flight each), then to Bordeaux (an additional flight each), and return, we’d use up our entire quota?
Can we establish an exchange, by which folks with no intent to ever fly can sell their quota allotments to other folks to use?
Such polls are essentially meaningless. Why? At least three reasons would skew the results:
Responses would have little or no connection to people’s stance on climate change.
Hmm, they’re going to have a high turnover of pilots.
Boeing, Airbus, Embrear, Bombardier. You may have a problem!
There is no possible debate on the fact that French polls are a liberal conspiracy, as proven by the absurd moves in the center/right primary which showed Juppé fall for the “grande mosquée” which was hoax fake news hoax.
Vacation flights or business flights?
Let’s say you’re a service man for a scale company based in southern California. A customer, an airline company, calls from El Paso, Texas, “Our freight scale isn’t working.” It’s used to charge customers, and to calculate how to load a aircraft to maintain the center of gravity within the specified limits. Determination – the scale needs a replacement strain gauge load cell.
The only time I ever helped unload an aircraft. As soon as my toolbox came down the belt, I was put on an aircraft tug and off to the freight terminal. Job done and I finally got to see the inside of the passenger terminal about 2200.
Does that count as “a flight”?
Perth to Singapore, Qantas 707. We got almost half way, and the air conditioning failed in the middle third of the cabin. Return to Perth.
Does that count as “a flight”?
My first flight at five years old, in a DH Moth Minor over the south side of Brisbane.
Does that count as “a flight”?
Where is the line drawn? And by whom?
Jean-Marc Jancovici – an expert on climate alarmism
I guess the so-called expert doesn’t realise how much freight is transported on scheduled flights. If they carry on with these they might as well take passengers as well. Like I others here, this is only a survey so a free hit to talk bollocks as they realise it is not going to happen any time soon.
Yep. In the UK Heathrow Airport is the UK’s largest ‘port’ by value with over 218 destinations worldwide and over £203bn worth of goods handled in 2022. Very few people are aware of this.
That guy, Jancovici, knows everything. The fact is that he has a lot of statistics on his finger tips and he is a good talker (I know, I have listened to many of his conferences and talks). However he talks very fast and don’t allow any time for questioning his assertions. The only good thing about him is that he realises that so called “re-newable” solutions won’t work and he is in favor of nuclear energy. I don’t think he ever accepted (on record) a dialogue with a normal climate realist.