Antarctic Sea Ice Volume Greater Than The Early 1980s

From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

By Paul Homewood

There was much scaremongering from the alarmist community when Antarctic sea ice extent fell earlier in the year. As the Antarctic summer begins, the melt has slowed down, to the extent that extent is not even the lowest since 1979, and it is higher than in 2017:

But much more important is the fact that sea ice volume remains higher than the early 1980s, thanks to the fact that it is much thicker than normal around the peninsula:

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RickWill
December 22, 2023 7:17 pm

South Pole was the sunniest place on Earth yesterday for any day anywhere throughout 2023. Despite that, the SP could only manage -18C. Allowing for the lapse rate, it was still way warmer than -1.7C water surrounding the ice block.

rbwphd@msn.com
December 22, 2023 7:42 pm

On the contrary, maximum sea ice coverage in Antarctica in September of 2023 was the lowest on record at 16.96M square kilometers or 1.75M below the long-term average.

Tommy2b
Reply to  rbwphd@msn.com
December 22, 2023 9:39 pm

Pay attention. We are talking about now, not September. It’s late December, and the sea ice extent is no different than in 1979 (y’know, before we set the planet on fire and boiled the oceans), and the volume is greater than the early 80s.

bnice2000
Reply to  rbwphd@msn.com
December 22, 2023 10:00 pm

Now we have a rampant know-not-much propagandist from the far-left msn….

This should be fun !! 🙂

Antarctic Sea ice currently (day 355) above 2016, 2018, 2021 and 2022

Arctic sea ice is currently above every year back to 2006 except 2008 and 2014.

Rich Davis
Reply to  bnice2000
December 23, 2023 7:27 am

But, but “phd” (piled higher & deeper)

bnice2000
Reply to  Rich Davis
December 23, 2023 10:34 am

In Marxist macramé making, no doubt !!

Alpha
Reply to  rbwphd@msn.com
December 23, 2023 1:31 am

Please state your sources when sprinkling factoids.

Antarctic ice extent 2023 comparison.jpg
ATheoK
Reply to  Alpha
December 24, 2023 8:19 pm

I believe rbwphd@msn.com was sprinkling factlessoids, kinda like hemorrhoids only colder.

observa
Reply to  rbwphd@msn.com
December 23, 2023 3:12 pm

It’s obviously the cooking fires and burnoffs to flush out game so the primitive descendants owe us a big fat sorry-
Lost ancient colony off coast of Australia that hundreds of thousands once called home discovered (msn.com)
You know it makes sense climate changers.

Jeff Alberts
December 22, 2023 8:29 pm

I still fail to see why we should be concerned about polar ice at all.

Interested Observer
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 22, 2023 9:21 pm

Won’t somebody think of the penguins?!

Richard Page
Reply to  Interested Observer
December 23, 2023 12:43 am

I do. I think I’ll need a bigger roasting tray, some onions, carrots and a bulb of garlic I think. It could replace the turkey at Christmas!

joe x
Reply to  Richard Page
December 23, 2023 2:48 am

tastes like chicken.

bobpjones
Reply to  Interested Observer
December 23, 2023 2:36 am

They’re safe, as long as ASDA keep stocking the shelves with them.

Tommy2b
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 22, 2023 9:34 pm

Because the alarmists tell us that we need to be concerned. That it’s the canary in the coalmine. That it’s the tipping point of tipping points.
And, most importantly: that our globes will look so much less Christmas-y without white frosting on top and bottom!

In all seriousness: We are only playing their game. “You said this is happening and it’s a problem. First of all, it looks like it’s not even happening – so forget about whether it’s a problem or not.”

bnice2000
Reply to  Tommy2b
December 22, 2023 10:07 pm

I think people are gradually becoming aware that basically anything an alarmist says …

… is a load of agenda-driven bollocks. !

Rich Davis
Reply to  Tommy2b
December 23, 2023 7:33 am

Do you have any idea how much sea level has risen as the result of all that sea ice melting?

That’s right, 0.000 mm!

bnice2000
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 22, 2023 10:04 pm

Antarctic sea ice.. no need to be concerned at all.

Arctic sea ice is a concern when there is too much of it for too much of the year (like back in the LIA and 1979..

The drop back down slightly towards more normal Holocene levels has been a boon for Arctic sea life, with several species with last sightings or proxy evidence during the MWP, starting to return to the region.

bnice2000
Reply to  bnice2000
December 22, 2023 10:05 pm

ps, not only that, but having the passages around the edge of the Arctic region open to sea traffic for longer periods, is highly beneficial to the human populations living up there.

Tommy2b
December 22, 2023 9:36 pm

ugh! Why won’t nature EVER co-operate with our models?!

Peta of Newark
December 23, 2023 12:47 am

Sod the ice, sod what the Sputnik’s data has been massaged to say (who is this Labe we read about, this guy is a hoax like the greening sputnik was/is)…….

  • How much zooplankton/phytoplankton is in the water now compared to 30 yrs ago
  • or Krill…..
  • What colour is the water – has it changed in that time
  • Are the penguins ‘suffering’ or not
  • What colour is the ice, has its albedo changed
  • Is there more/less Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Magnesium, Sulphur, Boron, Manganese or Potassium in the water
  • What do fishermen who work there have to say
  • How are the whales/sharks/dolphins keeping, more/less, fatter/thinner, healthy/diseased
  • What about tuna fish worldwide (they are truly *amazing* fish)
  • <there will be more such indicators>

Many will know what I’m alluding to to, how simply shovelling a few billions of tonnes of ‘dirt’ into the water would explain *all* those things we see happening around there

viz: Globally, between ourselves and Ma Nature, we shovel enough dirt into the water via rivers and ‘runoff’ to raise sea-level by 1mm per year.
Before how much (10, 20, 50%) more is blown in by the wind? Which it will be coming and coming from increasingly aridified continents – the Mediterranean Climate does *not* come without cost

Hysteria
Reply to  Peta of Newark
December 23, 2023 1:58 am

Very interesting piece on the BBC of all places – surprised they let it on actually

About the massive amount of carbon captured and sequestered by zooplankton (IIRC) as it sinks to the floor of the Antarctic Ocean!

“Our climate models do not recognise this system …” or words to that effect….

Editor
Reply to  Hysteria
December 24, 2023 1:36 pm

They are making tomorrow’s oilfields.

davidburrows9
December 23, 2023 4:39 am

I don’t understand the significance of Antarctic sea ice volume or area. Unlike the Artic its mainly due to flow off the continent rather than sea freezing. So if we are getting warmer then likely more would flow but once in the sea it would melt quicker. So how to interpret observed changes?

Joe Gordon
December 23, 2023 11:39 am

For more than a decade now, the religious left has been yammering on about “it’s the wrong kind of ice.” I suppose that’s why this story won’t get any media attention.

You’d think it would be “good news – Saint Obama’s $20 million home won’t get washed away next week after all.” It’s never good news. Good news doesn’t sell subscriptions. Good news means all those writers the greens have paid for will have to go back to hawking $10 lattes at Starbucks.

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